http://sports.yahoo.com/news/coaching-carousel-washington-to-retain-lorenzo-romar-thad-matta-to-return-at-ohio-state-032351523.html

Romar will surive despite a 2-16 conference record in Pac12 this season and a 6th straight year missing NCAA. Looks like the Porter family won't be going on the open market.

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At Washington, Romar will be retained for a 16th season, despite losing 21 games this year and barring a miracle Pac-12 tournament championship failing to make the NCAA tournament for the sixth straight year. Romar has signed the No. 1 player in the class of 2017, Michael Porter Jr., and although past recruiting coups have not resulted in great on-court success, the school is unwilling to pay his $3.5 million buyout. Romar is well-liked at Washington, which also has helped his cause.

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Also a comment about Mark Fox at Georgia

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Georgia is exploring its options to replace Mark Fox, according to sources. Fox has not been fired, but the school is gathering information on potential successors. Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity refuted that Fox's job was in danger Tuesday morning.

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Romar should leave to Mizzou anyways and get four guaranteed years.

Wow didn't realize it's been 6 years since UW made the tourney...there's been some talent to come out of there

Some comments about Mizzou's coaching search was also mentioned. Seems like keep an eye on either Tom Crean (if he wants to get out of Indiana while the getting is good) or Cuonzo Martin.

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Among currently open jobs, Missouri is vetting candidates and California's Cuonzo Martin almost certainly will be one of them. Martin is prepared to leave Cal after two seasons and return to the Midwest, but could also be a candidate at Illinois if that job opens. Other possibilities at Missouri could include North Carolina-Wilmington's Kevin Keatts, and if Tom Crean wishes to leave Indiana he could be an attractive candidate for the Tigers.

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Elijah Thomas could be looking at a new coach at Clemson.

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Crean's future is unclear at this point, as is the situation at Clemson, where Brad Brownell is finishing his seventh season and hasn't been to the NCAA tourney since his initial year. This year's Clemson team is on the wrong side of the bubble entering the Atlantic Coast Conference tournament, after a succession of agonizing losses.

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Method Man said:

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TheMarksMen said:

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Wow didn't realize it's been 6 years since UW made the tourney...there's been some talent to come out of there

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That's the AD we hired. This dude won't fire anyone.

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Under Woodward's reign, UW won a grand total of 3 Pac-12 championships. In all sports. Combined.

And Romar has been such a hot coaching commodity for the past 10 years...I'm sure UW is stoked they locked him up so no one would still him away.

So, is the Clemson HC coaching for his job vs. Duke today at 2:30 pm Eastern?

Pumpkinhead said:

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So, is the Clemson HC coaching for his job vs. Duke today at 2:30 pm Eastern?

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He shouldn't be, he should be fired no matter what happens now. Dude is bad.

Cuonzo Martin is an interesting coach. He seems to do just good enough that other schools consider hiring him but not good enough that the fans of the school he coaches at particularly love him.

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Method Man said:

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TheMarksMen said:

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Wow didn't realize it's been 6 years since UW made the tourney...there's been some talent to come out of there

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That's the AD we hired. This dude won't fire anyone.

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In his defense, Romar seems like a really good guy.

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wacarnolds said:

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free_mhayden said:

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The AD before Woodward gave him an extension that went through his (Woodwards) tenure at Washington.

Basically Woodward doens't deserve any credit for the good Romar did, but he also doesn't deserve any blame for him being allowed to hang around -- neither were really his decisions.

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January 2008 - Washington forces out old AD, hires Scott Woodward as athletic director

April 2010 - Lorenzo Romar receives 10-year contract extension

March 2017 - Woodward had nothing to do with that extension, it was the previous AD who was fired 2 years before Romar received the extension

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I may have misread, but from what i saw, Romar received a contract extension through 2015-2016 from previous AD Todd Turner in 2007.

Woodward extended it in 2010 from '16 to '20.

Keep in mind in 2010 they were coming off of their 3rd Sweet 16 in 6 years under Romar... So agreeing to a deal through 2020 was a justifiable proactive move to keep a very successful coach around.

Not much of a comment on Woodward's general abilities, just this particular instance, but I think you can debate the wisdom and "justifiable-ness" of a 4-year extension made 6 years ahead of time and having the effect of locking a coach down for a total of 10 more years.

Maybe Romar really had Washington wrapped around his little finger and actually was thinking about leaving without the extension...

...but I would be pretty darn against that kind of extension unless he was one of the all-time greats.

I'm sure Washington was on cloud 9 at the time, but man, I'd be real tempted to say fine, leave for somewhere else if 6 years ain't good enough for you, we're not making that kind of commitment.

Easier said than done with all the emotion and politics, I know. But as the AD, your supposed to be able to take the emotion out of it.

free_mhayden said:

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wacarnolds said:

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free_mhayden said:

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The AD before Woodward gave him an extension that went through his (Woodwards) tenure at Washington.

Basically Woodward doens't deserve any credit for the good Romar did, but he also doesn't deserve any blame for him being allowed to hang around -- neither were really his decisions.

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January 2008 - Washington forces out old AD, hires Scott Woodward as athletic director

April 2010 - Lorenzo Romar receives 10-year contract extension

March 2017 - Woodward had nothing to do with that extension, it was the previous AD who was fired 2 years before Romar received the extension

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I may have misread, but from what i saw, Romar received a contract extension through 2015-2016 from previous AD Todd Turner in 2007.

Woodward extended it in 2010 from '16 to '20.

Keep in mind in 2010 they were coming off of their 3rd Sweet 16 in 6 years under Romar... So agreeing to a deal through 2020 was a justifiable proactive move to keep a very successful coach around.

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http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-huskies/washingtons-lorenzo-romar-agrees-to-10-year-contract-extension-husky-basketball/

Lorenzo Romar, who wants to finish his coaching career at Washington, agreed to a 10-year contract extension that will keep him with the Huskies men's basketball team until 2020.

His new deal will pay him $1.7 million per year, not including bonuses.

The contract exceeds the extension Romar, 51, signed in 2007 that guaranteed $1.3 million a year, not including incentives.

Athletic director Scott Woodward said contract talks between Romar and Washington took minutes to complete, and he described the agreement as "pretty straightforward."

"He said, 'I want to be here and I want to end my career here,' " Woodward said of Romar. "He said, 'I don't want to be coaching when I'm well into my 60s, and this might be my final contract,' and I said, 'Let's get it done.' So we decided to get a deal done."

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Minutes spent negotiating. Coach wants to finish career here.

Probably identical to the ridiculous contract extension Woodward gave Kennedy.

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Another awesome AD hire.

wacarnolds said:

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Minutes spent negotiating. Coach wants to finish career here.

Probably identical to the ridiculous contract extension Woodward gave Kennedy.

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I laughed.

and then I cried

wacarnolds said:

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Minutes spent negotiating. Coach wants to finish career here.

Probably identical to the ridiculous contract extension Woodward gave Kennedy.

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Woodward contract negotiation formula:

Good guy + recruits well + wants to finish career at school = very generous extension

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Not much of a comment on Woodward's general abilities, just this particular instance, but I think you can debate the wisdom and "justifiable-ness" of a 4-year extension made 6 years ahead of time and having the effect of locking a coach down for a total of 10 more years.

Maybe Romar really had Washington wrapped around his little finger and actually was thinking about leaving without the extension...

...but I would be pretty darn against that kind of extension unless he was one of the all-time greats.

I'm sure Washington was on cloud 9 at the time, but man, I'd be real tempted to say fine, leave for somewhere else if 6 years ain't good enough for you, we're not making that kind of commitment.

Easier said than done with all the emotion and politics, I know. But as the AD, your supposed to be able to take the emotion out of it.

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I think that's easy to say now. But in 2010 Lorenzo Romar was getting interest from a whole lot of places, and was/is by the most successful coach in Washington basketball's 100+ year history.

As with most contracts, it probably depends on what the buyout situation is/was.

For comparison, I'd say it would be like us offering BCG a 7-year deal after the Sweet 16 loss... Possibly over-committing, but doing so with good reason.

Pumpkinhead said:

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wacarnolds said:

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Minutes spent negotiating. Coach wants to finish career here.

Probably identical to the ridiculous contract extension Woodward gave Kennedy.

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Woodward contract negotiation formula:

Good guy + recruits well + wants to finish career at school = very generous extension

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Michael Porter is going to UW next year. He's a 6' 9" small forward who can play the 1 through 4. If they have anyone else to go with that they will improve greatly. Michael is a great kid too. Lived near us before they moved to Missouri.

Article on keeping Romar. Author seems to say there are 100 reasons to fire him and his own gut says fire him, but yet thinks keeping him was the right call. Read for yourself to follow the logic.

http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/keeping-lorenzo-romar-is-right-call-despite-huskies-embarrassing-season/

EKUAg said:

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Pumpkinhead said:

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wacarnolds said:

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Minutes spent negotiating. Coach wants to finish career here.

Probably identical to the ridiculous contract extension Woodward gave Kennedy.

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Woodward contract negotiation formula:

Good guy + recruits well + wants to finish career at school = very generous extension

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Michael Porter is going to UW next year. He's a 6' 9" small forward who can play the 1 through 4. If they have anyone else to go with that they will improve greatly. Michael is a great kid too. Lived near us before they moved to Missouri.

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They just went 2-16 in the Pac 12 with a guy who is projected to potentially be the #1 NBA Draft Pick in a few months. The Porter & friends recruiting class is definitely awesome though. That plus the buyout presumably saved his butt.

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They just went 2-16 in the Pac 12 with a guy who is projected to potentially be the #1 NBA Draft Pick in a few months.

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To be fair, that 2-16 was in the worst P5 conference in the nation, so there's reason for optimism

I think the real question is how Washington keeps managing to land elite recruits when their program is posting 2-16 records in Pac-12 play and missing the NCAA tournament year after year. Not saying there's anything shady going on but yeah I wouldn't be shocked if there was something shady going on

TheChameleon said:

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I think the real question is how Washington keeps managing to land elite recruits when their program is posting 2-16 records in Pac-12 play and missing the NCAA tournament year after year. Not saying there's anything shady going on but yeah I wouldn't be shocked if there was something shady going on

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They landed Porter because Romar hired his dad. And they were the first to recruit Fultz.

Having said that, bags of cash never go out of style.

free_mhayden said:

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To be fair regarding Woodward/Romar:

Romar was hired and had great success under previous ADs.

The AD before Woodward gave him an extension that went through his (Woodwards) tenure at Washington.

Basically Woodward doens't deserve any credit for the good Romar did, but he also doesn't deserve any blame for him being allowed to hang around -- neither were really his decisions.

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Correct.

jml2621 said:

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free_mhayden said:

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To be fair regarding Woodward/Romar:

Romar was hired and had great success under previous ADs.

The AD before Woodward gave him an extension that went through his (Woodwards) tenure at Washington.

Basically Woodward doens't deserve any credit for the good Romar did, but he also doesn't deserve any blame for him being allowed to hang around -- neither were really his decisions.

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Correct.

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That's already been proven incorrect, in this very thread

Even then, what you're seeing with Romar is pretty much the standard of what happens with incredibly successful coaches who are no longer incredibly successful... They've earned enough leeway from their school to hang around 4-5 years without producing

UW fired Romar yesterday. Looks like Michael Porter Jr will reopen his recruitment. Sounds like Dad will end up on Cuanzo Martin's staff at Mizzou.

EKUAg said:

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UW fired Romar yesterday. Looks like Michael Porter Jr will reopen his recruitment. Sounds like Dad will end up on Cuanzo Martin's staff at Mizzou.

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Pretty much nailed it.

Some bonus mad from a hack newspaper guy in Seattle

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Happy trails, Michael. You're the best basketball player in the history of the world, a genuine miracle-worker. But when a marching band didn't appear at your front door, and the coach didn't genuflect to you on the porch, you realized the University of Washington was ready to move on.

Hang in there, Anointed One. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

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Wow, between the 10 year extension to Romar and the idiotic Kennedy extension, I have about zero confidence in Woodards judgement going forward. So disappointing.

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Wow, between the 10 year extension to Romar and the idiotic Kennedy extension, I have about zero confidence in Woodards judgement going forward. So disappointing.

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Don't just focus on these two contracts, look at how UW performed under his watch. Their whole athletic department was garbage

I think we need to vote and decide if we're blaming the AD for everything bad that happens or if we're going with him being a powerless puppet of the BMAs and blaming them for everything. Can't be both right?