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dmart90's Four Roses Review (yeah, I just sampled them all and I'm a little tipsy)

I'm lucky enough to have eleven distinct bottle of Four Roses in my collection - four Small Batch (3 LEs) and seven single barrels (6 private selections).

Let's start with the single barrels.

Single Barrel Winner

Single Barrel Barrel Strength OBSV (11y, 10m, 58.7% A/V)

Wow! Excellent heat and spice, with a touch of fruit and spice at the end.

Runner Up

Single Barrel Barrel Strength OBSQ (8y, 7m, 57.7% A/V)

Solid drinker, starts with a lot of heat and a hint of mint, with a nice sweet after taste, followed by more heat.

The Rest
  • Single Barrel (which is an OBSV, 50.0% A/V)
    Floral and sweet followed by long heat - for the price this is a really solid choice.
  • Single Barrel Barrel Strength OESV (11y, 1m, 54.4% A/V)
    Kind of delicate and fruity and creamy - pretty nice.
  • Single Barrel Barrel Strength OBSO (10y, 9m, 51.9% A/V)
    A little flat with notes of fruit.
  • Single Barrel Barrel Strength OESF (10y, 1m, 56.3% A/V)
    A little flat with herbal notes. OK.
  • Single Barrel Barrel Strength OBSF (11y, 4m, 62.9% A/V)
    Disappointed. The proof is just overwhelming. Either I'm a girl or this needs water to open it up.

Small Batch Winner

2016 Limited Edition OESO (12y), OBSV (12y), OESK (16y)

Talk about smooth! The blend is masterful. Good heat and sweetness combined. Incredible.

Runner Up

Small Batch (which is an OBSK (12y), OESK, OBSO, OESO blend)

While, honestly a little flat, I can see this as a really nice mixer at a wonderful price. I see this going into my next Old Fashioned (maybe later tonight!).

The Rest
  • 2015 LE (OBSK (16y), OESK (15y), OESK (14y), OBSV (11y)
    Sweet and floral with a lingering heat. This is like telling Cindy Crawford she's an also ran (yeah, I'm old).
  • 2014 LE (OBSK (9y), OBSV (13y), OESV (12y), OBSF (11y)
    A little more heat than the 2015, but still really smooth and tasty.
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Wheatables02 said:

SouthTexasAg06 said:

My favorite BM product was a Single Barrel Store Pick Sherry from Lincoln Road Package Store in MS. If anyone goes to a MSU game in the future I recommend stopping by there, the guy who owns it has some great single barrel store picks.
Headed through Hattiesburg on the way to FL next week. Will try and stop and report in.


If they have this pick, I will definitely pay you for one...
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jh0400 said:

These are technically Tennessee Whiskey, but they'll be here in a week or so.


Good stuff. Just had their Belle Meade (Madeira finished). It was tasty, but too pricey.
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Any opinions on High West Campfire?
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Do yourself a favor and stop at Lincoln Road. Never had anything from there myself, but they have a very good reputation, and a TON of store picks.

Also, I came back to my WLW for the first time since I first opened it tonight. Got damn! You better hurry, or that bottle is gonna be gone. Absolute perfection. Every other bourbon is immediately ruined
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Jamie knows how to pick them. Have several of his picks. All are are stellar.
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TGoll09 said:

Do yourself a favor and stop at Lincoln Road. Never had anything from there myself, but they have a very good reputation, and a TON of store picks.

Also, I came back to my WLW for the first time since I first opened it tonight. Got damn! You better hurry, or that bottle is gonna be gone. Absolute perfection. Every other bourbon is immediately ruined


Bro you better save me some or you're not getting any of my GTS.
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No worries, just busting your balls. I've been scared to touch that bottle bc I want it to last forever!
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This might seem odd, but I opened a new bottle of Blantons the other night and I think it sucks. It's sour, thin and gross. Has this ever happened to anyone?

Dumped 12/12/16
Warehouse H rick #8
barrel 100
registered number 90

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I'm not a big fan of Blantons, but I've never had pour of it that was downright bad either. Sounds like a bad bottle, maybe contaminated somehow.
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sounds like normal Blanton's with a little sunlight or maybe just normal Blanton's...
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Carl Hungus said:

This might seem odd, but I opened a new bottle of Blantons the other night and I think it sucks. It's sour, thin and gross. Has this ever happened to anyone?

Dumped 12/12/16
Warehouse H rick #8
barrel 100
registered number 90




Never happened to me but I've heard of it happening to others... likely a tainted cork if I had to guess. Either way, if you get with Buffalo Trace about it they'll usually get you a new bottle and some extra swag.
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You think so? That would be awesome. Yeah it's definitely ****ty, I just poured a glass from a different bottle and it's great.
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I'd contact Buffalo Trace and let them know, possibly offer to send them a sample so they can see.

In other news, there's political rumblings that a tarrif on steel to Europe may result in a bourbon tarrif in return. Which, hopefully, means all that export juice would be released stateside.
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What Alaskan had said. Hopefully more for the folks at home!
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be."
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Do you think the secondary market would only get hotter if this happens?
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AlaskanAg99 said:

I'd contact Buffalo Trace and let them know, possibly offer to send them a sample so they can see.

In other news, there's political rumblings that a tarrif on steel to Europe may result in a bourbon tarrif in return. Which, hopefully, means all that export juice would be released stateside.
I saw an article on that as well. They kept talking about how it would affect the bourbon industry and probably lead to either reduced production or increased domestic pricing. I kept thinking how there really would be any effect given the popularity of bourbon domestically and in countries that would not be wrapped up in any tarriff issues. Admittedly, that's a subject beyond my knowledge...but with the demand being what it is, I simply cannot see how Kentucky would experience any noticeable blip on the radar as a result because there are so many alternate avenues to maintain sales where they are at the prices they are right now.
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Maybe this will lead to those export Blanton's variants being available in the USA. I'd be OK with that.
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Most of the Blanton goes to Japan, they have some special deal.

As for a reduction in production, I doubt it. It may mean they just age the juice longer. Totally unknown, I think the US market demand is there to suck it down and they give no ****s about secondary.
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That "special deal" is being owned by a Japanese company.
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Carl Hungus said:

That "special deal" is being owned by a Japanese company.


Blantons is a Buffalo Trace product. Buffalo Trace is owned by Sazerac, which is headquartered in Louisiana.
tx4guns
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You're thinking about Beam Suntory.
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You're right, my bad.
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Yeah but didn't they sell the Blantons rights to a Japanese company? Thought I read that somewhere.
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That's what I was told on the tour a decade ago. I was holding SFTB but was told it's export only under their agreement. I would expect to see any Blanton export only items on local shelves if a bourbon tarrif is enacted.
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Interesting read from Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bourbon/comments/34a42m/blantons_ownership_and_exports_question/
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Found some Wild turkey Decades for $98 today. That stuff is fantastic.
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I picked up a Stagg jr and ECBP, the ECBP is amazing. Haven't opened the Stagg yet
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Carl Hungus said:

I picked up a Stagg jr and ECBP, the ECBP is amazing. Haven't opened the Stagg yet


That ECBP is scarce around Htown. And so delicious.
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I've never seen this particular bottle, we have some small
Batch barrel proofs here in town, but not this one. I traded a guy for it from New York for a bottle of W12. He shipped his ECBP to me FedEx and trusted me to send back the W12. Just a random guy from the Facebook group. Worked out quite well. I got buyers remorse after sending the W12 and made a few calls and found a replacement.
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What's the proof of your ECBP? I have a couple different ones and they're all great...
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139.4, its great!
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Nuke, I'm a Wild Turkey fanatic, been halfway keeping my eye out for the Decades. Throw me a frickin' bone. username @ yahoo.
Class of '03
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Email sent
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Anyone care to speculate what was stolen?

http://wjla.com/news/local/bourbon-bandit-burglar-robs-hen-quarter-of-rare-bourbons
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