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Anyone built their own in-ground pool?

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vmiaptetr
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Tell me it can be done, or tell me why you would have hired a contractor. We're floating the idea of one instead of a summer vacation this year. Hearing from people who have paid $100k for their pool makes me want to throw up.
AggieOO
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Its been done.

TexAg1987
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The hard part would be getting all the correct trades lined up. From what I have seen the gunnite and plaster guys are all booked up with pool builders and you will have a hard time getting a window for them to work on your pool. You are a one and done job and the pool builders provide constant work.

This also applies to the plumber, pool digger, electrician, flatwork, coping, etc.

Some of these don't have to be done by "pool people", but I would imagine you will pay a premium if they are unfamiliar with the type of work.

Pool builder usually orders all the correct equipment/parts and has it on site for the trades to install also. This could get tricky if you don't do your homework.
evestor1
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no - but my father built a few for clients during home construction. he was a GC and not a pool guy.


Back then (1990-2005) it was easy. I have heard it is impossible to get materials if you are not a large enough account. So digging, equipment, rebar is easy. Getting gunnite is impossible.
vmiaptetr
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Good to know. I have an excavator big enough to dig the hole. I was an electrician in a past life, and I'm confident in my plumbing. Sounds like getting the gunite is going to be my hang up. I live in an area that's not going to require a permit, and I don't need any dirt hauled off.
vmiaptetr
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Yeah. I think my biggest concern would be missing a critical step and having to do major rework to correct the issue.
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Background: long time swim family with swim/water-polo captains, WSI, lifeguards and all this includes taking care of backyard & public pools/equipment.
Also associated with architecture/engineering that includes pool design/construction.

Bottom Line
Our opinon is ... no matter how much trouble it is to find convenient water time, go public ... or at least to a friend's pool .... or on pool/ocean/water/hot tubbing vacations.

This is bolstered by also a long time horse ownership vicarious life.

Both the above are joyous until the maintenace, repairs, threat of weather, et al. sucks all the joy from it.

Rebuttal:
You'll never enjoy a rental horse as much as yor own trained horse experience
but when you are done riding, you are done. Pooltime is similar.


If you build, there is permitting, engineering toward no-leaks, plumbing out the whazoo, native soils that can be enemies, all prior to the finished product never being at peace ala an infant needing care continually.

We did enjoy our/friends private pools, be us in the water or only aesthteically but would never adopt that lifestyle again. When these were filled with earth, there was a sole tear but complete understanding and applause.

Yes, we know of country folks with "farm" equipment and enough know-how that did their own pools.

We also know people that plan vacations around hot tubbing, exotic pools and of course prime beaches.

Interested to know how all this turns out for you.
Ten words or less ... a goal unattainable
TexAg1987
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Maybe you could work a deal with a pool builder to do some of the work yourself since you have the capabilities.
vmiaptetr
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Thanks for sharing your experience. That carries a lot of weight.
fire09
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With respect to the above opinion, 100% disagree on the idea of public pool vs private. Many of our best events, activities, etc have been around our pool at home. And the ability to have a kitchen, bathrooms, privacy, ac and shade make it night and day different. Maintenance and repairs are not a detriment if kept up with. There is a cost to owning a pool but if it is used enough, the time of vs dollars is almost nothing. We are in our pool at least 75-100 days a year.
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My old man did it during the summer of 1980 - the hottest summer on record in DFW. Don't think it was planned that way, was just the way it went. I was 8-9 years old during the pool build time, which I recall taking 4-5 months. Pool is a vinyl liner.

He did it all -- potholing in backyard to confirm locations of utilities and best orientation for pool, a rectangular shape, roughly 30' L x 15' W, 3' in shallow end, 8' on deep end.

He drove his truck from Allen to Plano to the 84 Lumber yard and rented a rubber tire backhoe, which he drove home on the shoulder. Trip was probably around 6-7 miles.

Began digging in backyard, much to my delight. Don't think my sisters cared too much, am certain my Mom had serious doubts. He excavated the basic form and depths, then returned the backhoe. Seemed like that only took a week or two, can't remember what he did with the spoils. Am sure he had someone haul it off.

Transition from shallow end to deep end is a simple slope. With pool having length of roughly 24', slope takes up about one-third of total length.

Walls are stacked cinder block from grade to three foot depth, which matches shallow end. Walls at the start of the pool floor slope and in the deep end are a steep angle and along with the pool bottom are a mix of clean sand and quikrete, very lightly moistened when mixed and applied. Seem to recall ratio was around 80 sand/20 concrete, so it would set a little but could be shaped and would pretty much hold. Do know that over the years, there have been some divots made under the liner where people have jumped into the shallow end and hit the floor hard with heel of the foot, which would stay until the vinyl liner would need to be replaced, which is when my dad would then fill in or smooth where necessary.

He routed all plumbing to pump and sand filter, routed and wired all electrical, formed and poured concrete deck and finished with Koolcrete, most of which is still in place.

Not sure who he had draw up prints on the pool. He was a career drafter with TI/Raytheon, so as far as I know he drew the blueprints up himself - I have never asked, but will make ensure I do engage on that topic.

Several neighbors pitched in a lot of help.
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If you're local to the Fort Worth or Tarrant, Parker, Johnson, or Hood counties, I'd be happy to work with you to build a pool. If not, then I'd be happy to coach you through it. Shoot me an email if you're interested.

Background is of 10 years commercial construction and nearly 3 years building residential pools. I took over a company that's been in the business since 1976 and can still pull on the previous owner's experiences as needed.

kb@nw-pools.com

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TexAg1987 said:

The hard part would be getting all the correct trades lined up. From what I have seen the gunnite and plaster guys are all booked up with pool builders and you will have a hard time getting a window for them to work on your pool. You are a one and done job and the pool builders provide constant work.

This also applies to the plumber, pool digger, electrician, flatwork, coping, etc.

Some of these don't have to be done by "pool people", but I would imagine you will pay a premium if they are unfamiliar with the type of work.

Pool builder usually orders all the correct equipment/parts and has it on site for the trades to install also. This could get tricky if you don't do your homework.

I guess this explains my situation. I am trying to get in touch with the company that did the plaster for my pool (done by the prior home owner) and they are 100% MIA...wont get back to me....frustrating....
555-PINF
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fire09 said:

With respect to the above opinion, 100% disagree on the idea of public pool vs private. Many of our best events, activities, etc have been around our pool at home. And the ability to have a kitchen, bathrooms, privacy, ac and shade make it night and day different. Maintenance and repairs are not a detriment if kept up with. There is a cost to owning a pool but if it is used enough, the time of vs dollars is almost nothing. We are in our pool at least 75-100 days a year.

Agreed. We're in ours as much as possible. Hell, I was in it yesterday for an hour or so. Like you said, there's a cost, but it's not terrible. I follow the Troublefree pool method of maintenance and chemical costs are minimal. I think I spent $300 to get the initial stuff, then it's just replenishing it here and there. The most expensive item for me is liquid chlorine, but I knew that going in. It's still only like $50/month during the heaviest load (Summer months) and probably averages to about $30/month smoothed over the year. I put in a Stenner pump, so I get the convenience of a salt system without the negative effects.

OP's kids are young, so they'll get a lot of use out of it. Plus, as they age, their friends will want to come to your house, so it's easier to keep an eye on them and who they're around.

As far as being your own GC, it's entirely possible depending on what you're willing/able to do if/when you can't get worked into a trade's schedule. My buddy did his own, but he's a home builder and had most of the skilled labor side already working for him. The only thing he had to really work for was the plaster. It's just a matter of getting on their books early enough.
Maximus Johnson
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Have you looked into this option?

https://us.plungie.com/gallery
vmiaptetr
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This has my attention.
KALALL
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Rather than gunite, have you looked into the drop in fiberglass pools? I imagine you could get one of those to drop in a hole you dug. They have a ton of shapes and sizes.
Aggietaco
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Builder friend in town has done a few of these and recommends them. They can end up costing less, but the biggest issue is lack of customization and size limitations. Great for in town properties with tight setbacks or size restrictions. I looked into them briefly when he was installing one 2-3 years ago and have one loosely figured into never-going-to-happen remodel plans, but I'm sure cost has changed since covid.
Corps_Ag12
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At this point I can build the same pool with better features for that price as a gunite/plaster pool after you factor in the hole you have to dig, leveling the bottom, buying the Plungie, having it delivered, the crane to set it, running the plumbing & electrical, and tidying everything up.

Also, I have yet to see a Plungie with a Polaris or floor cleaning system, ergo that means you or your service guy get to spend hours vacuuming by hand and netting leaves.
Animal Eight 84
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Buddy of mine did. Hard work but was going well. He excavated, bent and set rebar, installed plumbing and leak checked.

Then a Tropical Storm with heavy rains popped heading straight at him, he lived in Lake Jackson area a couple of miles from the coast.

He got real lucky and got a pool company owner friend to call in a favor and a Gunnite company showed up for $$$$$ and knocked the job late in the afternoon.

He came within hours of having a Huge mess to tear out and start over.

He did finish the pool himself and it looked great.
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