Did people stop installing AC systems due to Covid? That makes no sense by the way.

I don't believe this at all:

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"Until technicians have vaccines and we can reduce the risk of both our employees and the homeowner and not having to deal with the struggles of unnecessary risks just by waiting a few months is kind of our goal," said Zapelac.

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every other A/C business still going out and doing business.

EcoZapp just always felt like snake oil salesmen and/or only got into A/C business because "hey, maybe we can do that" but with no real passion or actual real-world knowledge about it.

never felt they were honest at all about anything.

Perception they gave off with their advertising and postings here.

Could be wrong, but perception is tough to change.

Sorry not sorry is how I feel about a business whose rep belittled everyone he came in contact with here.

We all knew it...just a matter of time

Lol. We care about our employees so we're going to lay them all off so they don't get sick.

Is this the same company that was pest control company and a a/c company?

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Is this the same company that was pest control company and a a/c company?

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Don't forget roofing

Had them out to our house when we first moved here and inquired about a duct cleaning which is the only reason I had them out. Before the tech even walked into my door, he was showing me stuff on his iPad that I needed to buy and upgrade my whole system. Over $25k. Said "I just want to let you know what you're possibly facing first."

Needless to say I didn't like that tactic one bit. He came in, looked at my units and said they don't do duct cleaning, but he can sell me all that other stuff. SERIOUSLY?! It's literally the only thing I called about. Snake salesman for sure. Hate to see small businesses not make it, but this company had the writing on the wall.

If that's not a red flag I don't know what is.

you hear stories about small business owners who get to know their customers, become part of the community, do all the right things, etc. Then when times are tough - people pay that back, support them, keep them in business. Feel good stories.

....not happening here. I do feel bad for people employed there who likely have no job , but every other landscape, window and door, painting, home remodel and improvement company has likely had a good year. Every project I want to do around my house - "we are booked out for months", yet EcoCrap has to "refocus".

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"Until then we're going to try and stop COVID with these air purifiers nationwide."

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...so we go from peddling some miracle coolant that defies physics to now an air purifier that kills viruses. Next we will hear about some miracle pipe that doesn't freeze in current conditions.

Plus, they couldn't even bother to proofread their website and claimed to be too busy to correct grammatical errors and misspellings. And if you mentioned it seemed unprofessional, lord help you.

Snake oil about sums it up. He reminded me of people selling crap you could put in your car's A/C to make it stop leaking but would be more likely to just gum up and blow your compressor. Thanks but no thanks!

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I feel like they were just posting positions on the job board, claiming to be one of the fastest growing Aggie owned companies.

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he was always tyring to get job seekers to apply with them.

And i feel bad for anyone who bought A/C units from them with warranty through them.

Most people value honest, hard-working, straight-forward companies who are in business to make money but also built for the long-haul for their customers.

Eco-zapp from the beginning never even tried to project that image.
Oh we are in the bug-killing business...
Oops. Now we really are in HVAC business..
Oh and here is some snake oil to put in your old system that might get it cooler... don't blame us if your old system just happens to stop working 2 months after...

Ohhh, wait! Now we are in the air purifying business and our system can stop Covid!!!

Pick something and be the best at it.
Customers do not care that you are hiring to have the biggest employee base in town.

Customers do not care what the inside of your warehouse has in it.

Most People can easily sense when a company or person is all style and no substance.

And that has been my perception from the first time I encounterd their ads and especially when the owner/boss started posting on Texags.

I think the interesting thing about that guy is that he was clearly a troll/con-man and Texags just kept taking his advertising money. Yet the mods on the site still like to levy the ban hammer for other paying customers exhibiting similar behavior. Hopefully they reevaluate their sponsorship criteria after dealing with him.

The owner's FB page even says "never stop the hustle".

I met josh at a function one time and he saw my shirt that obviously had HVAC company logo on it and he made the comment when I introduced myself to him "I kinda do ac work too". I always chuckled at that. Because there was a whole lot of kinda in their work.
I think what ultimately got him was the supply houses. He burned a lot of bridges and kept jumping brands "due to price increases from xyz brand we now sell". You can do your own reasoning as to why parts houses were dropping him. The second thing he had going against him is he had investors. He approached one of my good friends about investing a sizable amount of money into the company for a share of ownership and my friend declined.
It's a hard gig to run a business with such high sales pressure tactics and not so great work in a town like BCS. Compound that to having investors that are expecting a return on their money and it gets dicey. That's when you start trying to do anything anywhere to bring in income. You then quickly learn you're doing a whole lot of things and not one of them well. Then you're out of business and somehow got a nice PPP loan and a virus to ride off into the sunset with tail between legs. (I assume he got a ppp).
I'm sad he's gone because it was a lot of fun to argue with someone that knew nothing about HVAC but acted like they were gods gift to our industry. I'll also miss all the customers I gained from him and the money I made from them. He is a thinker though and he will be back with something.
I just heard that ABC is opening their HVAC division here soon. They run a good company and do good work in Austin. They pay their guys very well and will take a good chunk of market share in BCS. One thing I've learned though is not to worry about what your competitor is doing or not doing, worry about what you're doing and the rest will take care of itself. I've built a very solid business and have made a lot of money and someday I hope to be as big as ABC if it's meant to be. My biggest beef with ABC is they sell Lennox, and I hate Lennox junk.
Good luck with your moms ac. I hate nest thermostats and would venture to say the problem is likely in the thermostat.