Above ground pool put in ground?

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Jbob04
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Anyone here have any experience or knowledge of doing this? Seems like a good idea but I'm not sure what kind of problems would be associated with it.
sts7049
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if you're going through all the trouble to dig a hole why wouldn't you just build a proper below ground pool?
Jbob04
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The main reason would be cost, I'm not going to spend 50-60K on a pool.
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Don't bury an inground pool. It's not made to resist the pressure the soil can exert on the sides when water isn't in it. Could also collapse onto someone even with water in the pool. Not worth the risk. Go with a drop-in fiberglass pool if you want to go cheap. Or just get a big thick piece of plastic and build a pond like you'd see in a pasture.
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Is this a real question? Someone wants to bury an above ground pool?
p_bubel
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I see it enough that I'm not surprised by it any longer.

I've seen it work, especially if you don't bury it completely, but I would price out the cheap fiberglass stuff first.
Jbob04
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Yes, evidently it's a pretty common thing now. It's new to me as well but after doing a little research on it, it's seems to be a popular installation. Most of them aren't buried completely. Usually leave a foot or two above ground and build a deck around it.
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Shouldn't be a problem if it is behind your trailer house. My suggestion; don't do it.
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Not trying to be a ass but I can tell you one thing... if you were selling that house and I came to look at it and saw a buried above ground pool I would immediately turn around and get in my car. Might decrease your property value.
ftworthag02
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like this?
http://floridacoastabovegroundpools.com/2017/07/31/can-i-bury-an-above-ground-pool/
Jbob04
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ftworthag02 said:

like this?
http://floridacoastabovegroundpools.com/2017/07/31/can-i-bury-an-above-ground-pool/


Yes, that's what I was talking about.
MrJonMan
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Surely I'm not the only one that in my head was imagining a plastic liner with pvc support poles type above ground pool, right?
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My old boss did this. He was a classic "redneck engineer". Dug the hole himself with a bobcat, reinforced the sides with some wood, and away he went. Then it rained... Water filled in under and around the pool and screwed it up royally. He drained it, re dug it, and started over. Then it rained again. He repeated the process 3 or 4 times before he finally threw in the towel. Pretty sure he filled the hole with lots of garbage to make up for the dirt he disposed of elsewhere and then covered it all up. Be wary if you ever buy a house in Bryan on Wildflower Ln from an old dude with Elvis looking sideburns FYI!
Long Live Sully
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rilloaggie said:

My old boss did this. He was a classic "redneck engineer". Dug the hole himself with a bobcat, reinforced the sides with some wood, and away he went. Then it rained... Water filled in under and around the pool and screwed it up royally. He drained it, re dug it, and started over. Then it rained again. He repeated the process 3 or 4 times before he finally threw in the towel. Pretty sure he filled the hole with lots of garbage to make up for the dirt he disposed of elsewhere and then covered it all up. Be wary if you ever buy a house in Bryan on Wildflower Ln from an old dude with Elvis looking sideburns FYI!
And.... you worked for this high IQ redneck.
Malachi Constant
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The commercial for an above ground pool lasts 30 seconds because 30 seconds is the maximum amount of time you can have fun in an above ground pool.

-Mitch Hedberg
rilloaggie
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Just long enough to pay TAMU and get on down the road!
Long Live Sully
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Jbob04 said:

The main reason would be cost, I'm not going to spend 50-60K on a pool.


You are correct, it's closer to $100k these days.
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ftworthag02 said:

Not trying to be a ass but I can tell you one thing... if you were selling that house and I came to look at it and saw a buried above ground pool I would immediately turn around and get in my car. Might decrease your property value.
Agreed. Not trying to start the pool/no pool debate. But you're certainly decreasing your potential buyers when you add a pool, as for some people it is a deal killer. So when you sell you're looking "pool want" or at least "pool neutral" buyers. A cheap half-done redneck-way job will turn off the pool-neutral. It would also make me wonde where else you cut corners and did something the cheap or easy way.

On-the-other-hand, it's your home and you can't base every decision around "what happens when I sell?" especially if selling isn't on the horizon. Enjoy YOUR home for sure. I don't view a primary home as an investment. You have to live somewhere, and living isn't free.

But, it think it's a monumentally bad idea, primarily because you're trying to shoe-horn a cheap alternative into a role it was never designed to fill.
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There are some pretty decent looking ones here.


https://www.pinterest.com/agpoolreviews/above-ground-pool-landscaping/
62strat
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I've always a pictured just building a deck around it. Maybe bury it a foot or two, with 2-3' exposed.
Ol_Ag_02
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Screw the haters. This is a fantastic idea. Once you get started we expect lots of pictures of the work and finished product.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Screw the haters. This is a fantastic idea. Once you get started we expect lots of pictures of the work and finished product.


Only if it's a weekend job like the bathroom remodel.
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Oh. Hahaha. I was thinking he wanted to buy one of those academy specials and drop it in the ground. Lol.

He wants an actual real above ground pool that's buries in the ground. I think that's ok and legit.
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Water weighs 62.4 lbs per cubic foot. Soil weighs about 110lbs per cubic foot, or more like 135 lbs if it's super saturated. Worst case scenario, the soil's going to push against your walls with around 135 lbs per square foot of wall. Above ground pools (the rigid fiberglass kind) aren't built to resist over-turning moment like that. Instead, they're only built to handle hoop-stress of the water pressure pushing out.

To balance out the soil force against the wall, you need to ensure that the water pressure pushing out is greater than the soil pressure pushing in. Ie: 135/62.4 = ~2.25 feet. You need the constant water level to be about 27" higher than the adjacent ground. And you can NEVER drain it.

That's actually doable. It'd look like this:





BrazosDog02
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How much would something like the last picture run? That looks more aesthetically pleasing than an in ground pool to me
sims05
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Can't speak to the price of that setup but I had a 12' x 20' above ground pool installed in 2012 for $7500 for material and labor. The pool was a Doughboy and they stated it could be put in ground. It was metal walled so I'm not sure if an in ground installation would need a different material. They also had a liner that would balloon out and allow for one end to be deeper than the other.
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BigNastyNate said:

Jbob04 said:

The main reason would be cost, I'm not going to spend 50-60K on a pool.


You are correct, it's closer to $100k these days.
$100K for a pool? I was getting close to getting quotes for a pool but was hoping for $75K or less (in the Austin area)
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It depends on how big of a pool, decking, other features like water features, fire, outdoor kitchen/patio, etc...

My pool is 36,000 gallons, which is pretty large.

We had quotes come in from $70k - $90k, again depending on finish out and features...
62strat
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BigNastyNate said:

It depends on how big of a pool, decking, other features like water features, fire, outdoor kitchen/patio, etc...

My pool is 36,000 gallons, which is pretty large.

We had quotes come in from $70k - $90k, again depending on finish out and features...
36k gallons?

That's like 700sf @ 7' average depth!
Complete Idiot
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BigNastyNate said:

It depends on how big of a pool, decking, other features like water features, fire, outdoor kitchen/patio, etc...

My pool is 36,000 gallons, which is pretty large.

We had quotes come in from $70k - $90k, again depending on finish out and features...
Who did you end up going with? Happy with them?
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