Rubble said:
TMfrisco said:
I'm not sure who needs more than the Bushnell Phantom. For $100 you get front, middle, and back and distance to hazards all in a nice compact device that can go in your pocket or sticks to your cart.
I had a garmin front middle back device. When I got an actual range finder, my scores improved. Knowing how far you really are to the pin makes club selection easier.
I find that very interesting and I have opinions on this matter that may not be popular.
1. Very, very few golfers practice enough to know how far they actually hit clubs outside maybe a 10 yard range
2. Even fewer of those golfers consistently hit the ball to the distance (not length, but accurate length) they even think they do with much consistency
3. I find lasers even less necessary if you play the same course most of the time and know the features of the course
4. I find lasers somewhat helpful for playing new courses, but reverting back to my first 2 opinions - front, middle, and back - are more than enough for the vast majority of golfers. If most just took the yardage to the center of the green and tried to hit it there, they would be better off.
5. I feel like the use of lasers has slowed down the game - I know all the arguments for it actually speeding up the game, but anecdotally I don't find that to be accurate
6. The best golfers I have ever played with could score because of their "feel" for hitting shots - "It's 140 yards into the wind and I am going to hit a punch/draw 7-iron short of the green and roll it to the pin" - that kind of thing
I've played golf for a long time and have had a handicap as low as the mid single digits and even though I can't play to that now, I still find the above to be mostly true. In addition, I am friends with one of the Bushnell reps in Texas and have never wanted for any of their products. The last laser he gave me has never left the box and I use the Phantom or Wingman exclusively. I just don't see the need for the accuracy of a laser for the vast majority of golfers - if you tell them it is 150, 163, 177 and the pin is somewhere in the front or back of the green and tell them to hit it 155 or 165, they probably can't hit it to that distance with any consistency anyway.
Just my thoughts on the matter and if somebody wants the accuracy of a laser, there are plenty of options out there and it sounds like the Costco one is no more expensive than my preferred Phantom so why not get it if that is what you think you need.