https://www.golfchannel.com/news/report-jordan-spieth-visits-butch-harmon-swing-help

He's got it in him but I just don't know if he'll ever get it back. Crazy to think he might have peaked in his early 20s.

It's crazy what a roller coaster all of his strokes gained stats have been the past 5 years. When he was winning, he was dominant and top 10-20 in all 3 key metrics, not a surprise. Since then, all 3 have bobbed up and down. In 2018, he struck the ball well but started putting like crap. Then in 2019, his putting was good but his ball striking went to ***** Then in 2020 they all went to **** together and 2021 is even worse

Ag_07 said:

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Needs to get divorced.

He hit the slide as soon as he tied the knot.

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Tried to get longer, which is a mistake. Then his approach shots suffered which put more pressure on his putting. Viscous cycle he's fallen in to. Guy has 3 majors and 12 wins on tour and tons of talent. No reason he can't regain it.

His play at his peak was just not sustainable for the player he is. To do what he did was off the charts insane. He can be better than he is now, but I doubt he's ever again a top 5 player. Just doesn't have the skills those top players do, especially with length.

98Ag99Grad said:

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Tried to get longer, which is a mistake. Then his approach shots suffered which put more pressure on his putting. Viscous cycle he's fallen in to. Guy has 3 majors and 12 wins on tour and tons of talent. No reason he can't regain it.

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Do you have anything that backs up this claim of him trying to add distance? I follow golf pretty closely and this is the first I've heard this.

Is it possible that after he rinsed two balls in Rae's Creek in 2016 that it just got in his head?

I'm old enough to remember Steve Blass. In 1971 he pitched two complete game World Series wins, in '72 he finished second in the Cy Young voting, and then couldn't throw a strike to save his ass in '73 and was out of baseball after 1974.

Here you go:

Duval Advice

Chamblee's Take

Heard it mentioned many times. Was looking for an extra 5-10 yards and things have gone south since.

Interesting. Jordan mentioned none of that in his extremely in depth interview with NLU in 2019. He went into depth on his swing issues.

Also assuming that Brandal and DDs information is accurate 5-10 yards isn't what I would consider "chasing" distance. I think that is like 2 mph of club head speed.

Doesn't take much to F everything up. The swing is so much timing, rhythm, etc. Start messing with one part, another thing changes and so on. I found the Chamblee analysis interesting about the knee. Guys a blowhard but knows the golf swing.

He drove the ball further and with the same accuracy on 2018 as when he was winning majors. And he's not driving it farther now than he did in 2018. His approach game was solid too. It was his putting that went to crap then. They are oversimplifying this. He's been fidgeting with a lot of the parts of his game, and it actually started with his putter years ago after he cooled a bit from being all-world.

So Speith "chased distance" without actually adding any distance?

No one knows better than him. I really enjoy listening to guys who lost it talking about it honestly.

I think Chamblee's initial comments were more on point. Spieth's mindset is constantly attacking and repairing when it comes to developing his game. That personality even stands out during a round - It's clear his mind goes 90mph thinking about a million things. He was sort of Bryson before Bryson as far as the on course hamster wheel. Now is distance chasing one of those things? Probably. My point is that it goes way beyond that and that's not the root cause. I think he got into his own head on a lot of things, with distance being just one of them.

As that Duval article points out, he won won 5 times in 2 years including a major after he improved his distance. His putting went first, then his long game followed

DannyDuberstein said:

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I think Chamblee's initial comments were more on point. Spieth's mindset is constantly attacking and repairing when it comes to developing his game. That personality even stands out during a round - It's clear his mind goes 90mph thinking about a million things. He was sort of Bryson before Bryson as far as the on course hamster wheel. Now is distance chasing one of those things? Probably. My point is that it goes way beyond that and that's not the root cause. I think he got into his own head on a lot of things, with distance being just one of them.

As that Duval article points out, he won won 5 times in 2 years including a major after he improved his distance. His putting went first, then his long game followed

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https://golf.com/instruction/butch-harmon-fires-back-at-brandel-chamblee/

And I agree with Butch. I think Chamblee and Duval are both completely offbase with the distance theory. It's much more complex, to Butch's point. The one part where I agree with Chamblee is about Spieth's mindset on constantly attacking/repairing. I think that has led to constant tinkering and a series of issues that aren't simple to fix now with "well dont chase distance"

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Marauder Blue 6 said:

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I've never seen Spieth hit a bad shot that was his fault. He's always blaming something other than himself. He's a mental midget.

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I have. His self deprecating commentary can be pretty amusing.

"Ohhh, nice shot, Jordan...way to take a minute."

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That's why he might be my favorite player - his comments remind me a lot of me on the course.