Needs to work on his putting stroke.

Tee to green Johnny's game is better than I expected. He's for real.

He tweeted out the other day he was trying to get to a +5. I think it was somewhat tounge in cheek but all I could think was, what would the media circus be like if he somehow qualified for a US open in a few years? Would be fun.

After watching that I've determined it ain't gonna happen. Still light years better than I'll ever be.

Yep. Would be cool to see him a Pro Am or something.

I can see him being as good or better than a Romo or Steph Curry.

Mentioned this on another thread but did anyone notice that the big lefty putts right-handed? I've never seen that in my life.

Ervin Burrell said:

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Mentioned this on another thread but did anyone notice that the big lefty putts right-handed? I've never seen that in my life.

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One of my best friends does that.

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Mentioned this on another thread but did anyone notice that the big lefty putts right-handed? I've never seen that in my life.

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My wife putts left-handed as a righty. Says it makes her take her time and helps her make a better putting stroke.

If he played more he could to get scratch fairly quickly.

That being said, that's not Dustin Johnson / McIlroy, etc etc level....

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If he played more he could to get scratch fairly quickly.

That being said, that's not Dustin Johnson / McIlroy, etc etc level....

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I have a feeling he's already better than scratch. That course is a beast and he's +2 through 9 holes with like 3 lip-outs.

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He is a 2 handicap. Can confirm as he mentioned it in a tweet two weeks ago.

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Mentioned this on another thread but did anyone notice that the big lefty putts right-handed? I've never seen that in my life.

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I threw right handed/swung left handed in baseball. I swing right handed in golf. I sometimes like the read on the green viewing it from a lefty's perspective but mostly I just play around with it. I've often considered getting a LH putter and trying.

Man he made navigating those holes look easy.

I've seen Romo play a few times and Romo's swing looks more conventional like the pros. That said Johnny is still really good but not good enough to make an open.

I hope a Romo or Manziel pulls a Kramer and tries to get good enough for the senior tour...

Thanks for posting. I really enjoyed watching it.

Seems like another awesome course I'll never have to worry about playing.

GHIN says he's a 2.3.

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Mentioned this on another thread but did anyone notice that the big lefty putts right-handed? I've never seen that in my life.

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I played against a guy in a scramble and he used an old double sided putter. If it broke right to left he would putt right handed and if it was left to right he'd putt left handed. Can't remember what he did on a straight one. He was right handed though.

What tees did they play from?

Supposedly they played one up, which was around 7100 yards. I'm skeptical of some of them though. If yardage was accurate, Johnny hit some 300+ yard 3 woods.

In Vegas though. I've only played there once but the ball seems like it never comes down

Vegas is at 2000 ft altitude. Ball travels about half club longer.

so, just calculating it all out...

"Back/Blue" tees at Shadow Creek = par 72, 73.2 rating and a 138 slope. Not an easy course, sure.

2.3 handicap calculates out to a 4 course handicap....meaning that only 20% of the time will he shoot 77 or better there.

So, he's +2 through 9...he's right on pace for his handicap, which means he is having a good day and I would say with a slope of 138 - a great day. In non-tournament golf. And there is still 9 more to go.

tap the brakes on him being "scratch". 77 is not scratch. He's above average. +5 will never happen. sorry. a +5 handicap would have to shoot <=69 in 16 of 20 rounds there. A "scratch golfer" would need to shoot 74 or better 16/20 times there.

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...says every single digit handicap

It's clear the guy is talented, gifted athletically, probably could jump right in on the basketball court or baseball diamond too. We know what he can do in football. We can all count on one hand how many pro athletes thought they could be good enough for some professional level of golf and how many were actually successful? John Smoltz? Tony Romo?

Johnny should start a YouTube channel and play golf with famous people. Would probably make a bunch of money

Rick Rhoden.

You are correct on all counts above. JFF is good at the game.

He could dedicate the rest of his life to becoming a +5, and it's unlikely he'd ever get there. Not a knock on him at all, it's just that difficult.

Scratch to +5 =/= 5 to Scratch

Exponentially more difficult once you get to a +

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Johnny should start a YouTube channel and play golf with famous people. Would probably make a bunch of money

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I love Johnny but I have no interest in watching him golf nor any other 2 handicapper golf.

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Rick Rhoden.

You are correct on all counts above. JFF is good at the game.

He could dedicate the rest of his life to becoming a +5, and it's unlikely he'd ever get there. Not a knock on him at all, it's just that difficult.

Scratch to +5 =/= 5 to Scratch

Exponentially more difficult once you get to a +

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Completely agree. Going from 8 handicap to 2 to 3 was not hard. But I'm stuck at 3 right now and kinda scratching my head where I need to improve to get to scratch.

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Rick Rhoden.

You are correct on all counts above. JFF is good at the game.

He could dedicate the rest of his life to becoming a +5, and it's unlikely he'd ever get there. Not a knock on him at all, it's just that difficult.

Scratch to +5 =/= 5 to Scratch

Exponentially more difficult once you get to a +

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Completely agree. Going from 8 handicap to 2 to 3 was not hard. But I'm stuck at 3 right now and kinda scratching my head where I need to improve to get to scratch.

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A dedicated 6 months of this will get you there.

If it doesn't get you there, understand your ceiling, and be content with where you are.

https://texags.com/forums/60/topics/2334981

Part two is out:

my path has gone from being a 1-2 hdcp for many years, and it took a few years to get that to 0. It stayed there for a long time.

I got situated with a few swing changes that has just made me hit the ball much more consistently and reduced my big miss. That was a 2 year process to get to a +2. My hdcp right now is a +3, and the things that got me there are so miniscule, but required the most practice to shave that 1 stroke off. It's definitely strange...I'm now 47, busier than ever with kids, work, etc. yet my hdcp has slowly crept down. I didn't play much in 2019, but plan on a golf busy 2020. I fully expect that hdcp to come back to a +2 or even +1, unless I really start tearing it up. I had a good 6-8 round stretch where I played really well and those scores are about to start falling out of my most recent 20.

My point is - you have to hone in on WHY you aren't scoring better. Keep some stats. Trend it. Some small things put together lead to other area of progress. For the longest time, I thought it was my putting keeping me down, but in retrospect, I was 2 putting a ton because my iron shots were far off. My iron shots were off because I tend to miss the ball on the toe slightly....small setup change and I got that eliminated...better contact, better consistency and better accuracy. The putts per round started to come down and I noticed my avg birdies per round starting going up. Had I not thought through things end to end, I'd likely have just practiced my putting, thinking I could improve my score from 30-40' putts on the green. The stats on those would tell you none of that practice on those long putts would have helped.

It would be interesting to see you play a round to get an idea of what's happening

I wouldn't normally watch something like this, but that was fun to watch. All 4 are great golfers. Their escape ability was amazing.

Johnny already plays a ton. He finished +4. That's a heck of a round. Those greens were firm and sloping. It was really hard to ever get the ball close.

Johnny's 2 index is clearly legit. But as mentioned, there's a huge gap between being a 2 and being on the plus side. You have to be far better than scratch to ever even consider earning money at golf.