More dumpster fire: Okies faking data to boost USNWR ratings

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3:09p, 5/23/19

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University of Oklahoma gave false data to U.S. News college rankings for 20 years

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/us/university-oklahoma-best-colleges-ranking/index.html

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3:39p, 5/23/19

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Was Big Red Motors listed in there?

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3:54p, 5/23/19

So they don't have the most National Merit Scholars per capita of any university in the country???

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4:13p, 5/23/19

Fake data and couldn't crack the top 100?

Does this mean they blow more blue whale c*ck than TBAT?

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In reply to DifferenceMaker Ag • 5:16p, 5/23/19

DifferenceMaker Ag said:
So they don't have the most National Merit Scholars per capita of any university in the country???

I've always raised an eyebrow at that stat.

Must have heard it at least 100 times, minimum, over the past couple decades too.

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6:21p, 5/23/19

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Who here is not surprised?

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In reply to Ed Torian • 6:44p, 5/23/19

Ed Torian said:
Fake data and couldn't crack the top 100?

Does this mean they blow more blue whale c*ck than TBAT?

Somehow still less

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7:05p, 5/23/19

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Why doesn't Texas break off and become part of Mexico?

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In reply to goodAg80 • 8:32p, 5/23/19

I like the idea of the National Republic of Texas more, not that it would ever happen

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10:46p, 5/23/19

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The BDF clownshow continues.

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6:42a, 5/24/19

Cmon BDF brothers, get it together! We're a team!!!

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7:33a, 5/24/19

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Clemson was gaming the US News rankings for awhile as well. Among other tactics, they would rate other institutions poorly to elevate themselves. Why institutions' perceptions of each other would be a factor is one reason why the US News rankings are mostly garbage.

http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2009/06/did_clemson_gam.html

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In reply to goodAg80 • 7:34a, 5/24/19

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goodAg80 said:
Why doesn't Texas break off and become part of Mexico?

Oklahoma sucks.

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7:38a, 5/24/19

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I suspect that National Merit brag was true. Some of my kids were NM finalists. OU offered them a free ride for all 4 years. No takers from my family. But, I can certainly understand that many NM finalists would have jumped at that offer.

ETA: So, IMO, that "brag" isn't really a brag. Just a result of an economic decision. Showing once again, like I've mentioned/described on several TA forums...college admissions is a business. And, BTW, college rankings are nearly useless.

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9:21a, 5/24/19

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So a university that celebrates using illegal means to obtain land was involved in skulduggery? Preposterous!

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In reply to Caesar4 • 9:27a, 5/24/19

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Caesar4 said:
I suspect that National Merit brag was true. Some of my kids were NM finalists. OU offered them a free ride for all 4 years. No takers from my family. But, I can certainly understand that many NM finalists would have jumped at that offer.

ETA: So, IMO, that "brag" isn't really a brag. Just a result of an economic decision. Showing once again, like I've mentioned/described on several TA forums...college admissions is a business. And, BTW, college rankings are nearly useless.

So someone smart goes to OU and gets an education on par with San Antonio College or Austin Community College. I wonder how smart they really are.

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In reply to Caesar4 • 10:12a, 5/24/19

Caesar4 said:
I suspect that National Merit brag was true. Some of my kids were NM finalists. OU offered them a free ride for all 4 years. No takers from my family. But, I can certainly understand that many NM finalists would have jumped at that offer.

ETA: So, IMO, that "brag" isn't really a brag. Just a result of an economic decision. Showing once again, like I've mentioned/described on several TA forums...college admissions is a business. And, BTW, college rankings are nearly useless.

So basically OU offered something worthless to them for free? I doubt that many smart kids take them up on that offer versus the other scholarship offers they likely get.

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10:39a, 5/24/19

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Land thieves gonna land thieve.

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In reply to Your Friend • 12:11p, 5/24/19

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Your Friend said:
Cmon BDF brothers, get it together! We're a team!!!

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12:59p, 5/24/19

I have issues with the US News rankings, but that's another rant for another day. How will OU get out of this hole? I see three options, none of which are good.

1. Raise tuition
2. Increase state funding
3. Cut expenses

Good luck getting a tax increase passed to increase funding so OU can attract more DFW kids. If they cut expenses, down go the the US News scores and good bye smart kids.

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3:07p, 5/24/19

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Least 0u didn't sell that radioactive land around Houston to tu.... or did they.

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8:23a, 5/25/19

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OU is a dump. Blows my mind the draw they get.

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In reply to Your Friend • 8:30a, 5/25/19

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and they are playing by the team rules

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In reply to fourth deck • 8:42p, 5/29/19

fourth deck said:
Clemson was gaming the US News rankings for awhile as well. Among other tactics, they would rate other institutions poorly to elevate themselves. Why institutions' perceptions of each other would be a factor is one reason why the US News rankings are mostly garbage.

http://archive.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/brainiac/2009/06/did_clemson_gam.html

So is Graduation Rate. Together, those count for 50% of each school's ranking.