Big 12 pretty impressive

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I seriously believe that this disparity will continue to grow. The SEC and Big 10 conferences are both very watchable CFB. The ACC is maybe slightly less, but the PAC 12 and Big XII-2 are both terrible. I'm not talking about the style of football here either, even though I would rank them in the same order. The television quality and announcers of the SEC, Big 10 and ACC is far superior to the PAC 12 and Big XII. In the Big XII/Pac 12 the lighting, cutaways, interviews, color contrasts, even game action always seems like it's being directed filmed by the winners of the local HS journalism program's raffle.

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it's the teams as well.

Two common factors among Big 12 and Pac 12 teams are the huge majority of the teams in the conferences are smaller schools with no rich history.

BDF has Baylor, Iowa State, TCU, Texas Tech, Okie state, Kansas, K-state

None of those will ever be national draws. Even when TCU is ranked high, no one wants to to watch them.

BDF only has OU and Texas as any national draw, and texas has been mediocre for the 6-7 years.
And OU, while a blue-blood is still from a state more famous for tornadoes and Meth than football.


Pac 12 is watered down. USC and Oregon used to be talked about every year as national powerhouses, but apparently Oregon can't be good if they can't cheat like crazy.
USC is no longer thought of as a powerhouse.
UCLA has brand recognition but has not been interesting or good in the last 5 years.
Stanford was up there for a while, but something caught up with them.
Washington has been ranked high, but they suffer from being from a small state and those West Coast starting game times.

And what's left, while better than the BDF scrubs still aren't big name schools and suffer from pacific time start times:
Arizona and ASU - yawn
Cal-Berkley - boring
Colorado - haven't been heard from since they left the BDF
Oregon State - never gonna be good.
Utah - HA
Wazzou - the texas Tech of the Pac 12 when tech had leach. will make some noise in conference then crap the bed when the pressure is on.

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Rich as f***....

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So Baylor's share was kept and distributed among the other 9? So the other 9 schools' distribution were all increased by $3.8M. So, in reality, each school's share is $30.5, $11.5M behind ours, which is nearly FORTY PERCENT LESS.

Yeah...can't believe we "ran away" from there. I agree, we ran away as fast as we could.

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Rich as f***!

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Rich as f***....

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So Baylor's share was kept and distributed among the other 9? So the other 9 schools' distribution were all increased by $3.8M. So, in reality, each school's share is $30.5, $11.5M behind ours, which is nearly FORTY PERCENT LESS.

Yeah...can't believe we "ran away" from there. I agree, we ran away as fast as we could.

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Rich as f***!

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MelvinUdall (Ngayden) keeps a bag of bacon in his pocket so the dog will pay attention to him.

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So Baylor's share was kept and distributed among the other 9? So the other 9 schools' distribution were all increased by $3.8M. So, in reality, each school's share is $30.5, $11.5M behind ours, which is nearly FORTY PERCENT LESS.

Yeah...can't believe we "ran away" from there. I agree, we ran away as fast as we could.

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Rich as f***!

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MelvinUdall (Ngayden) keeps a bag of bacon in his pocket so the dog will pay attention to him.

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Rich as f***!

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And we all know that $34.3 million number for each bdf school is a lie.

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Baylol got nothing because they're rapists.

The shares will go down when that money is split 10 (lol) ways instead of 9.

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I was going under the assumption that the bdf usually quotes their number before the home office takes their cut (total revenue split 10-ways instead of 10 schools plus the conference, so really an 11 way split). If that number is pre-home office cut AND includes baylol's share, they are really in a world of hurt.

It's amusing how normalized the bdf moniker has become. It's used so often and frequently that even the bdf supporters and fans are cool with it. They're like, "Yeah, bdf F'n A!"

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So Baylor's share was kept and distributed among the other 9? So the other 9 schools' distribution were all increased by $3.8M. So, in reality, each school's share is $30.5, $11.5M behind ours, which is nearly FORTY PERCENT LESS.

Yeah...can't believe we "ran away" from there. I agree, we ran away as fast as we could.

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I believe Baylor gets some of their money (half maybe?) and the other half will be paid to Baylor eventually, so it doesn't get distributed to the other schools.

2017 BDF Form 990 data (07/01/2016-06/30/2017):

Total Revenue: $370,940,249
Total Expenses: $375,738,049
Net: ($4,797,800)

Previous year's Net was ($3,870,050). Net assets decreased from $29.8MM to $25.0MM (to cover the the net loss). 2 straight years of net losses and decreases in assets, while still increasing member payouts. At this rate, they have maybe 5 years before they have no more assets. When does the GOR expire again? 2025 - 7 years out.



2017 SEC Form 990 (09/01/2016-08/31/2017):

Total Revenue: $650,059,489
Total Expenses: $638,443,767
Net: $11,615,722

Revenue increased by $11MM, and benefits paid to members increased by over $8MM. Net assets increased from $83.9MM to $95.5MM (from the net gain).

Why doesn't the BDF have a conference network? You would think that if all the schools in the conference made money, it would increase the competition and the entire football season would be fun for the fans. Instead, the BDF schools have to raid the SEC and BiG for OOC games just to keep people interested.

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2017 BDF Form 990 data (07/01/2016-06/30/2017):

Total Revenue: $370,940,249
Total Expenses: $375,738,049
Net: ($4,797,800)

Previous year's Net was ($3,870,050). Net assets decreased from $29.8MM to $25.0MM (to cover the the net loss). 2 straight years of net losses and decreases in assets, while still increasing member payouts. At this rate, they have maybe 5 years before they have no more assets. When does the GOR expire again? 2025 - 7 years out.



2017 SEC Form 990 (09/01/2016-08/31/2017):

Total Revenue: $650,059,489
Total Expenses: $638,443,767
Net: $11,615,722

Revenue increased by $11MM, and benefits paid to members increased by over $8MM. Net assets increased from $83.9MM to $95.5MM (from the net gain).

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Looking at the expenses, interesting:

1) Bob Bowlsby was given a $400,000 pay increase from the year before. Bowlsby was making nearly $3 million overall that year, and compared to the nearly $1.9 million raked in by Greg Sankey.
2) B12 advertising was listed at $1.3 million, up from $650,000 the year before; but still behind SEC's $2.2 million.
3) B12 legal fees was listed at $5.8 million, up from $3.1 million the year before; and ahead of SEC's $2.8 million.
4) Big12 compensation for key employees, directors, trustees, and such was listed as $3.5 million, up from $3 million the year before; but SEC lags at $1.9 million.

It would seem the drain of the assets is for B12 overhead items and not really money being diverted to the schools.

2016 B12 Form 990

Ft Worth Ag said:

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GrapevineAg said:

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2017 BDF Form 990 data (07/01/2016-06/30/2017):

Total Revenue: $370,940,249
Total Expenses: $375,738,049
Net: ($4,797,800)

Previous year's Net was ($3,870,050). Net assets decreased from $29.8MM to $25.0MM (to cover the the net loss). 2 straight years of net losses and decreases in assets, while still increasing member payouts. At this rate, they have maybe 5 years before they have no more assets. When does the GOR expire again? 2025 - 7 years out.



2017 SEC Form 990 (09/01/2016-08/31/2017):

Total Revenue: $650,059,489
Total Expenses: $638,443,767
Net: $11,615,722

Revenue increased by $11MM, and benefits paid to members increased by over $8MM. Net assets increased from $83.9MM to $95.5MM (from the net gain).

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Looking at the expenses, interesting:

1) Bob Bowlsby was given a $400,000 pay increase from the year before. Bowlsby was making nearly $3 million overall that year, and compared to the nearly $1.9 million raked in by Greg Sankey.
2) B12 advertising was listed at $1.3 million, up from $650,000 the year before; but still behind SEC's $2.2 million.
3) B12 legal fees was listed at $5.8 million, up from $3.1 million the year before; and ahead of SEC's $2.8 million.
4) Big12 compensation for key employees, directors, trustees, and such was listed as $3.5 million, up from $3 million the year before; but SEC lags at $1.9 million.

It would seem the drain of the assets is for B12 overhead items and not really money being diverted to the schools.

2016 B12 Form 990

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How much does it cost these days to make that shapeshifting coach commercial?

Or the "One True Champion" campaign where they wound up with two true champions?

I'm partial to the cake commercial where the cake goes in the oven round and comes out rectangular.

GrapevineAg said:

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2017 BDF Form 990 data (07/01/2016-06/30/2017):

Total Revenue: $370,940,249
Total Expenses: $375,738,049
Net: ($4,797,800)

Previous year's Net was ($3,870,050). Net assets decreased from $29.8MM to $25.0MM (to cover the the net loss). 2 straight years of net losses and decreases in assets, while still increasing member payouts. At this rate, they have maybe 5 years before they have no more assets. When does the GOR expire again? 2025 - 7 years out.



2017 SEC Form 990 (09/01/2016-08/31/2017):

Total Revenue: $650,059,489
Total Expenses: $638,443,767
Net: $11,615,722

Revenue increased by $11MM, and benefits paid to members increased by over $8MM. Net assets increased from $83.9MM to $95.5MM (from the net gain).

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Clololololololololol.... you pulled up this research on money of conferences and teams, do you have a life.

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3) B12 legal fees was listed at $5.8 million, up from $3.1 million the year before; and ahead of SEC's $2.8 million.

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Baylol...........the gift that keeps on giving

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Ft Worth Ag said:

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GrapevineAg said:

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2017 BDF Form 990 data (07/01/2016-06/30/2017):

Total Revenue: $370,940,249
Total Expenses: $375,738,049
Net: ($4,797,800)

Previous year's Net was ($3,870,050). Net assets decreased from $29.8MM to $25.0MM (to cover the the net loss). 2 straight years of net losses and decreases in assets, while still increasing member payouts. At this rate, they have maybe 5 years before they have no more assets. When does the GOR expire again? 2025 - 7 years out.



2017 SEC Form 990 (09/01/2016-08/31/2017):

Total Revenue: $650,059,489
Total Expenses: $638,443,767
Net: $11,615,722

Revenue increased by $11MM, and benefits paid to members increased by over $8MM. Net assets increased from $83.9MM to $95.5MM (from the net gain).

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Looking at the expenses, interesting:

1) Bob Bowlsby was given a $400,000 pay increase from the year before. Bowlsby was making nearly $3 million overall that year, and compared to the nearly $1.9 million raked in by Greg Sankey.
2) B12 advertising was listed at $1.3 million, up from $650,000 the year before; but still behind SEC's $2.2 million.
3) B12 legal fees was listed at $5.8 million, up from $3.1 million the year before; and ahead of SEC's $2.8 million.
4) Big12 compensation for key employees, directors, trustees, and such was listed as $3.5 million, up from $3 million the year before; but SEC lags at $1.9 million.

It would seem the drain of the assets is for B12 overhead items and not really money being diverted to the schools.

2016 B12 Form 990

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How much does it cost these days to make that shapeshifting coach commercial?

Or the "One True Champion" campaign where they wound up with two true champions?

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I'm guessing it's less now that Tom Herman is in the league. He can fill in for all of the coaches so the other nine don't have to get paid. You know, kind of like their TV contracts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/06/01/big-12-reports-365m-revenue-increases-for-12th-year-in-row/35586353/

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That average is an increase from last year when the league generated about $348 million, or about $34.8 million per school. And it could increase into the range of $40 million per school next year.

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That's some redneck accounting if I ever saw it. The bdf distribution went up 4.89% from the previous year. To get to $40MM, it has to go up 9.59%. They're smokin some good **** if they think that is happening.

$BDF$

The Big 12 saves a boat load of money by playing their games at 11 am. No lights.

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$BDF$

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Go perform fellatio on a cactus.