The anti-Malik of Murderers Row?

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MetoliusAg
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If you're like most cfb fans, you're sick of reading articles about overhyped players.

So meet Joel Lanning.

Iowa State linebacker Joel Lanning isn't very well known. Lanning wasn't a highly publicized five-star linebacker recruit. His name probably isn't on the Butkus Award watch list.

The Sporting News didn't name him the Big12's preseason defensive POY. Clueless sportswriters at ESPN and the AAS haven't written dozens of articles gushing about what a great defensive leader he is.

Lanning last played defense in the 8th grade. He was Iowa State's starting qb this time last year.

But at 6'2 230, Lanning isn't afraid of contact. In fact he actually likes to meet running backs straight up in the hole and knock them flat. Which happens to be a trait some of the Big12's most hyped linebackers don't have.

So the ISU coaches decided to move Lanning to linebacker. Thus far, it's working out pretty good.

Lanning is the first to admit he is still learning the linebacker position. He's still learning his reads and responsibilities and where to run to.

Yet in 2017 he has made 26 tackles in his first three starts (along with 4 tfl's, too). That is not too shabby at all. If he keeps it up, Lanning will end up exceeding the 100 total tackles mark in his first season as a college linebacker.

The Big12's Murderers Row: Kansas, Iowa State, and Baylor. Danger, Will Robinson! Look out, little brother sips.
titanmaster_race
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Hi Mrs. Lanning
huisachel
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Aggies looked great against Nichols State
TAMU77CLAY
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Horns looked great against Maryland
Your Friend
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An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?
goodAg80
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Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?
Hi Malik

TAMU77CLAY
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Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?
Not only a Aggie fan, a Graduate.
You?
No Bat Soup For You
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Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?


Why wouldn't we? We have 3 linebackers better than Mama's boy Malik.
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Chosen One
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TAMU77CLAY said:

Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?
Not only a Aggie fan, a Graduate.
You?
So do you miss Kingsville?
Chosen One
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hennyj15 said:

Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?


Why wouldn't we? We have 3 linebackers better than Mama's boy Malik.
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Chosen One said:

TAMU77CLAY said:

Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?
Not only a Aggie fan, a Graduate.
You?
So do you miss Kingsville?
Never been to Kingsville. You miss San Marcos?
Stevetex.
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hennyj15 said:

Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?


Why wouldn't we? We have 3 linebackers better than Mama's boy Malik.


Your Friend
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hennyj15 said:

Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?


Why wouldn't we? We have 3 linebackers better than Mama's boy Malik.
MetoliusAg
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What has Malik done thus far in his career at ut ?

Play soft as tissue paper? Yep.
Avoid meeting 220-lb running backs coming through a hole? Yep.
Ineffectually play linebacker for the two of the worst defenses in all of D1 football? Yep.

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bmed, just stop
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So is Malik of Nazareth better than Hines, Dodson, or Alaka?

All three of those guys have better instincts than Mama's boy and they're not pus2ies to boot.
Stevetex.
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hennyj15 said:

So is Malik of Nazareth better than Hines, Dodson, or Alaka?

All three of those guys have better instincts than Mama's boy and they're not pus2ies to boot.


Your opinion sucks

Here you go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-Malik-Jefferson-on-Pro-Football-Focus-All-Americ-108130379/Amp


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Stevetex. said:

hennyj15 said:

So is Malik of Nazareth better than Hines, Dodson, or Alaka?

All three of those guys have better instincts than Mama's boy and they're not pus2ies to boot.


Your opinion sucks

Here you go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-Malik-Jefferson-on-Pro-Football-Focus-All-Americ-108130379/Amp




stevo !!

how's it going little buddy ?

and how your friend, 76 and yourself ?
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petey88 said:

Stevetex. said:

hennyj15 said:

So is Malik of Nazareth better than Hines, Dodson, or Alaka?

All three of those guys have better instincts than Mama's boy and they're not pus2ies to boot.


Your opinion sucks

Here you go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-Malik-Jefferson-on-Pro-Football-Focus-All-Americ-108130379/Amp




stevo !!

how's it going little buddy ?

and how your friend, 76 and yourself ?


Leave me alone.

I'm trying to watch the A&M game
petey88
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Stevetex. said:

petey88 said:

Stevetex. said:

hennyj15 said:

So is Malik of Nazareth better than Hines, Dodson, or Alaka?

All three of those guys have better instincts than Mama's boy and they're not pus2ies to boot.


Your opinion sucks

Here you go

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/texas/Bolt/Texas-Longhorns-Malik-Jefferson-on-Pro-Football-Focus-All-Americ-108130379/Amp




stevo !!

how's it going little buddy ?

and how your friend, 76 and yourself ?


Leave me alone.

I'm trying to watch the A&M game

nice to see ya'll hooked up

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The link is a sip article overhyping unimpressive stats?! Fitting, Lol I don't blame sip for wanting to will homey to live up to his billing. Keep willing
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hennyj15 said:

Your Friend said:

An Aggie fan running smack about linebackers?


Why wouldn't we? We have 3 linebackers better than Mama's boy Malik.

But do they have that elite squat to bench ratio?
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Malik Jefferson sucks at college football and there's no metric to support an opinion otherwise.
MetoliusAg
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Quote:

Our analysts are constantly talking to NFL and college sources about players in the college game.

This week, NFL.com analyst Lance Zierlein shares some of what NFL folks are saying...

"I see Malik (Jefferson) and all of this hype around him as carry over from when he came in highly recruited. Where is the production? Where do you see him dominate games on tape? It's not on the tape yet." -- NFC scouting director

The skinny: The scouting director has a point. I looked at all of the data to check on Jefferson's production and the most glaring issue is his lack of tackles. Jefferson has good size and great athleticism, but managed just 121 tackles over his first two seasons. He has only one game in his
career with double-digit tackles, and his "impact" production (game-changing plays like tackles for loss, fumbles forced and recovered, INTs) is very modest.
Ruh-roh.
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Alaska and dodson are way better than Malik. That guy is fast and strong but plays football like a *****.
Chosen One
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The butt-hurt in this thread is freaking hilarious.

Remember when Malik, Dylon Mack and Kyler Murray were all part of a super secret plan to go to A&M and take over the SEC. How did that work out? Murray a backup at Oklahoma now, Mack a Backup for you and Malik a 3 year starter for Texas.

Oh, in case you missed it.

Freshmen year: Freshmen All American; honorable mention all conference; Big 12 new comer of the year; second on team in tackles with 61.

Sophomore year: (Considered a slump year for him). Third on team in tackles 62 with 42 solo. 8.5 tackles for loss; 5.5 sacks; AP second team All Big 12. 3rd team all Big 12 by Phil Steele.

Junior year: (after 4 games) 33 tackles; 3 tackles for loss 1 sack. All from a rover position. (meaning we don't usually have him rushing the passer, he is playing spy on the QB).



Now enlighten me on which Aggie linebacker comes close to having Malik's career?

Dodson? Well he played in every game his freshmen year, and those 27 tackles are pretty impressive. But not MJ worthy.

Alaka? Freshmen year: 33 tackles; 3.5 tackles for loss; no post season awards.
Sophomore year: 74 tackles with 30 being solo; 1 forced fumble; 1 sack. impressed with his ability to jump on a pile.
Junior year: (5 games) 31 tackles; 7 tackles for loss; 3 sacks.

Above average stats after 5 games, however still falls below Malik's as his are after 4 games. However, I can see why you are getting so excited, these are the first linebackers with a pulse you have had in over a quarter century. So congrats to you.

Sorry to sprinkle a little reality on your thread.
petey88
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seems like you are the butt hurt one here at 1:30 in the morning rationalizing to yourself
85AustinAg
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All hat, no cattle. Just another over hyped tsip.
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85AustinAg said:

All hat, no cattle. Just another over hyped tsip.
Statistics say otherwise.

then again, I shouldn't expect Aggies to understand good defense, it's been 20 years since your defense was good. It's been even longer since you had a decent linebacker, and that includes Dat.

Do me a favor, tell Daylon Mack to keep his head up, he might get a start next year. 3 years in your system and 0 starts, very sad. I guess not all 5'star players pan out.
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Ya Malik is a real ****ing badass

Sacks:
#9 Landis Durham
#76 Otaro Alaka
#76 Tyrel Dodson
Not listed: Malik Jefferson

TFL
#31 Otaro Alaka
Not Listed: Malik Jefferson

INT:
#22 Tyrel Dodson
Not listed: Malik Jefferson

Fumbles Forced:
#21 Landis Durham
Not listed: Malik Jefferson

Joe Exotic
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I looked up Malik's stats on ESPN and it's quite telling.

Malik Jefferson

Combined Tackles 33 (Tied for 132nd in the country)
Solo Tackles 23 (Tied for 56th in the country)
Interceptions 0 (Tied for last in the country)
Sacks 1 (Tied for 294th in the country)
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Chosen One said:

85AustinAg said:

All hat, no cattle. Just another over hyped tsip.
Statistics say otherwise.

then again, I shouldn't expect Aggies to understand good defense, it's been 20 years since your defense was good. It's been even longer since you had a decent linebacker, and that includes Dat.



Ya, that Von Miller guy sucked.
petey88
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this chosen clown sure is smart
MetoliusAg
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Alaka has developed himself into a competent starting D1 linebacker who makes his share of big plays. He isn't a guy who dominates, but he does hit hard and he grades out reasonably well. He plays starting inside linebacker in a league filled with future NFL power running backs and future NFL offensive linemen.

We're proud of Alaka. Besides being a great young man and serious academic student, he has overcome injuries and worked hard to develop himself as a linebacker and become one of the leaders of this defense.

Yet Aggies don't hype him as the second-coming of consensus All-Americans Quentin Coryatt, Johnny Holland, or Dat Nguyen. That would be silly. We know what competent D1 linebackers look like, and we know what dominant starting linebackers look like. We've seen plenty of both.

Compare that to how sips treat Malik Jefferson -- who for the past 3 games, at least -- is playing at a similar level to how Olaka is playing: like a competent, average starting D1 linebacker.

After 2 years of playing soft and avoiding hard physical contact and not making plays that average competent starting D1 linebackers make, Malik has finally played 3 games like an average starting D1 linebacker. Hip-hip-hooray!

That's why we Ags can't help but lol at our little brother tsip fanbase and the tsip media response: "My Gawd!! Light the tower up! What a warrior!! He's making (gasp) some tackles against San Jose State and Iowa State!!!"

Must be time for another Congress Avenue parade, third-place ring ceremony at DKR, and statue unveiling.
 
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