Realignment rewind: How last round of movement affected CFB

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http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19718974/college-football-realignment-look-back-winners-losers
AgLaw02
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The article only looks at teams that changed conferences. Naturally, nearly all of them benefitted from the move. That's why they made the change in the first place.

So if all (mostly all) of those schools were winners in conference reslignment, who were the losers? That would be the more interesting article.
Maroon Dawn
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Does sort of point out that the B-12 is the big loser here
AgLaw02
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Yes, of course they are. But I like reading articles that make that fact more widely known!
Jaxson11
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The PAC 12 is in a very tough spot. They aren't generating significant revenue from their conference network. PAC 12 schools are even behind the Big 12 in revenue. I know we all focus on the potential for the Big 12 to fall apart, but if I'm an eastern PAC 12 school, I would consider the Big 12 because there appears to be more money to be gained there.
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Colorado back to the bdf
Although I'm guessing Colorado would like to attract Texas recruits again.

The Arizona schools and Utah would be interesting.
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it still feels like Colorado was a loser in realignment. It's likes their football program has simply disappeared
AgCat93
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W said:

it still feels like Colorado was a loser in realignment. It's likes their football program has simply disappeared

Except they won 10 games last year and went to the PAC 12 championship game.
bmks270
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AgLaw02 said:

The article only looks at teams that changed conferences. Naturally, nearly all of them benefitted from the move. That's why they made the change in the first place.

So if all (mostly all) of those schools were winners in conference reslignment, who were the losers? That would be the more interesting article.


There were no losers except these 3:

University of Connecticut
University of Cincinnati
University of South Florida


All Big East schools now in the American Athletic Conference.

Differences between the basketball and football schools doomed the Big East.

Also, ESPN was pulling the strings. The Big East turned down a very large ESPN deal and Pittsburg is credited with leading the opposition to the contract with ESPN. There have also been accusations that Pittsburg was talking to ESPN separately and planned to bail from the conference all along.


Shortly after ESPN guides Syracuse and Pitt into the ACC:
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The most stunning comment in the article was DeFilippo's public admission that ESPN guided the A.C.C.'s decision to add Syracuse and Pittsburgh last month. "We always keep our television partners close to us," DeFilippo told The Globe. "You don't get extra money for basketball. It's 85 percent football money. TV ESPN is the one who told us what to do. This was football; it had nothing to do with basketball."

DeFilippo's comments give credence to the popular theory that ESPN encouraged Pittsburgh and Syracuse's exit from the Big East in the wake of the Big East's turning down ESPN's billion dollar television deal in May during an exclusive negotiating window. ESPN has a billion dollar deal with the A.C.C., making that move either savvy business or collusion, depending on one's perspective.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/sports/ncaafootball/conference-instability-is-filtering-down-to-the-next-level.html?ref=sports&pagewanted=all&referer=https://deadspin-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/deadspin.com/5848348/did-espn-bone-the-big-east-because-they-wouldnt-sign-a-tv-deal/amp?amp_js_v=0.1



Maroon Dawn
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The PAC is protected by geography from poaching (and that their only neighbor is the weakest and least desireable of the power conference siblings)

They recognize that they need a presence in the CTZ and will probably make a play for Sip and okie + their tag along baggage to sweeten the deal (and create a 4 team pod)
W
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that one season is nowhere enough to change the perception.

the Buffs were destroyed by 31 points in the Pac-12 title game...and then whipped by 30 points in the Alamo Bowl.

they were a product of a charmin soft schedule
kb2001
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W said:

it still feels like Colorado was a loser in realignment. It's likes their football program has simply disappeared
Colorado's football program disappeared because of Colorado, it had nothing to do with the move to the PAC-12.

Football scandals created a fight between athletics and the administration. Self-imposed recruiting restrictions crippled their ability to recruit competitively. They chased out a winning coach, and followed this with two bad hires that hurt the program for 7 years. They've since made a good hire, and made it to the conference championship game in his 4th season.
SlackerAg
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Colorado had to make a move when it seemed 4 schools were going to the PAC.
The Big 12 is the loser -- conference instability is constantly in the news ever since we left that dumpster.
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AgCat93 said:

W said:

it still feels like Colorado was a loser in realignment. It's likes their football program has simply disappeared

Except they won 10 games last year and went to the PAC 12 championship game.
ONE year.

They have recruited like ****, lost their starting QB, were loaded with upperclassmen this past season, and lost their defensive coordinator after the season. They will not be repeating that feat again this year. They are not competitive in any of the major sports in that conference.


All that being said, they are STILL winners in conference realignment for the sole fact that they are no longer in the BDF.
BESCo91
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bmks270 said:

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There were no losers except these 3:
- University of Connecticut
- University of Cincinnati
- University of South Florida

All Big East schools now in the American Athletic Conference.

Bingo!
Those were the only schools that changed conferences that were losers.
The only conference that was a loser was the Big12.

You could make an argument that the 8 legacy Big12 schools were losers due to a significant loss of prestige to the conference (and their conference schedules).
ApachePilot
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I think Colorado is a solid fit for the PAC12. They share more in common with the west coast than the Midwest. Boulder is a beautiful town. Possibly the coolest campus location I've ever been to. Socially Boulder is a hippie town like Eugene and other pac12 towns. That's were they lose me. Damn hippies!
fistofsouth
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I find it humorous that they give the PAC-12 the win as a conference in realignment. SEC and B1G gained FAR more in that shuffle in terms of stability, revenue and major media markets.
Madman
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What about West Virginia? The big east to the big 12 seems like an upgrade but being stuck by themselves on the east coast with no in conference rivalries sucks for them.
SlackerAg
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The forces that could extinguish the Big 12 are coming from all sides

It's funny that BDF collapse articles keep coming ever since we left.
Fightin Ag491
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W said:

that one season is nowhere enough to change the perception.

the Buffs were destroyed by 31 points in the Pac-12 title game...and then whipped by 30 points in the Alamo Bowl.

they were a product of a charmin soft schedule
Finished the regular season 10-2 with their only 2 losses coming on the road against 2 teams that finished the season in the Top 10. Ended the regular season with two consecutive wins against top 25 teams.

Charmin soft indeed
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