If Big 12 eventually falls apart, let's rank teams SEC would like to add from 1-10

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https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/big-12-eventually-falls-apart-lets-rank-teams-sec-like-add-1-10/
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Just make all of them 11
Joe Schillaci 48
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Do not click on this. Nothing but tu wanna be


Ginormus Ag
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0. All of them.

You don't take things out of a dumpster fire.
HTownAg98
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pepe the dog said:

Do not click on this. Nothing but tu wanna be




I'm sorry, I had to look. Yes, it's crap, and I feel bad for trying to read it.
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That's OK, it is crap. That guy has no idea, especially putting the sips where he did. Not only would we vote that down, Arkansas and Missouri would be line right behind us before the rest of the SEC even had it on an agenda.

I don't care to see OU even mentioned either. If the SEC were to expand in the near future, I would prefer it come from the east, preferably Virginia Tech for one. There is not one team from the BDF that should be considered.
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Dirt burglers are the only ones who would/should even merit a consideration. And that conversation shouldn't last very long. Hell to the naw. Every one of them.
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The only school in the Big 12 that might be a net positive from a revenue standpoint is texas.

However, they have demonstrated on numerous occasions that they are a cancer causing the death of whatever conference they are in.
LostInLA07
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How do people still not understand how the SECN revenue model functions?
BRAVO 1/124CAV
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Lets not.
chigger
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LostInLA07 said:

How do people still not understand how the SECN revenue model functions?


This. Still don't understand how anyone who can claim to be a sports journalist can be that clueless.
Tom Doniphon
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Without clicking that link, unless the states of North Carolina and Virginia are in the big xii now, it's all bullsh--t.

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No

Let them burn
Charlie 31
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This is nothing more than a click bait piece (please copy and paste the whole article next time OP to avoid unnecessary clicks!!) and wishful teassip and Land Thief dreaming. The answer this this poorly-written Interwebs article is NO.

I am kidding. The actual answer is HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!

The SEC does not gain anything regarding television and other revenue by adding another Texas school or any Kansas school. Texas A&M and Missouri took care of adding those television markets to the SEC five years ago.

No Okie from Muskogee nor any other university in the the former Indian Territory will help SEC revenues, either, so they should stop their trail of tears hoping for the SEC to feel sorry for their being stuck in the dying 10-team BDF.

West Virginia is not welcome since they burn couches when they win, burn coaches there when they lose, and they left the Confederacy in 1863. Iowa State has hot cheerleaders, but they are Yankees and are nowhere near the Southeastern United States nor have the teams that can compete in the SEC.

Any SEC expansion, if ever, will include one team from North Carolina and one team from Virginia.

Gig'em and Go SEC!!!
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If it falls apart, you do nothing but laugh
DallasAg 94
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That article was purely a recruiting gimmick for the Sips, at the expense of Baylor... again. It was another reminder to the other 9 schools that the Sips own them and without them, the rest would have nothing.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Conference#Men.27s_sponsored_sports_by_school

West Virginia? They sponsor 6 Men's sports in the BXII: Football, Basketball & Baseball. Then S&D and Wrestling. In 2015-2016, they ADDED Men's Golf. No T&F. No Tennis. And Wrestling doesn't fit the SEC. So, they'd compete in 4 Men's sports, with the added Golf making it 5. You think WV is known for golf courses?!

They are in the $87M Revenue range (near last in the SEC), and their 60,000 seat stadium would be the 2nd smallest in the SEC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeastern_Conference#Men.27s_sponsored_sports_by_school
Vandy sponsors only 6, but all others have at least 8.
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LostInLA07 said:

How do people still not understand how the SECN revenue model functions?


I understand how cable television footprints work.

I also understand that ESPN is insolvent and the business model for determining conference alignment may change before the BDF contract expires in 2025.
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Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second
HTownAg98
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There is no way the SEC is going to take a team that was instrumental in killing two conferences.
Reno Hightower
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Taking on a cancerous entity, like the sips, is NEVER good for business.
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runontexas said:

Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second

You will never get the votes needed for membership in the SEC and beside that your fan base has been saying for years that Texas would never join the SEC...so which is it? Looks like your choices will be the PAC or Big Ten, the Big 12 won't be around when the conference GOR's expire. Absolutely, no way ESPN will be at the table this next time. The SEC doesn't need your kind of business.
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runontexas said:

Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second

Since this is a business they already have the Texas market courtesy A&M and have grown to love their new conference mate. Tsip arrogance and entitlement combined with bringing NOTHING new to the table is a non-starter. Of course them even being in the discussion would require A&M, Arkansas, Mizzou, LSU, Florida, Georgia and USC to vote against their business interests.
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I don't want any more XII schools in the SEC.

If anything, there needs to be a slight tweaking: Maryland back to the ACC; VT to the SEC; and Missouri to the B1G.

Perfection!
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pepe the dog said:

Do not click on this. Nothing but tu wanna be



Yes SDS is an Aggie-trolling click bait. Stop feeding the troll and it will move on.
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From a purely objective view (and probably the national perspective), I think the rankings are right on. Texas, OU and Kansas add the most. I think there's a big drop between 3 and 4.

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Add Kansas so the west can have a Kentucky.
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fistofsouth said:

runontexas said:

Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second

Since this is a business they already have the Texas market courtesy A&M and have grown to love their new conference mate. Tsip arrogance and entitlement combined with bringing NOTHING new to the table is a non-starter. Of course them even being in the discussion would require A&M, Arkansas, Mizzou, LSU, Florida, Georgia and USC to vote against their business interests.

Because cable television as we know it will soon be obsolete, we need to stop thinking in terms of regional markets when discussing conference network deals. Conference networks will be web-based, and therefore measured by individual subscribers as opposed to measured by regions. Given UT's enormous fanbase, you can bet the SEC will consider them as an option.
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Your Friend said:

fistofsouth said:

runontexas said:

Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second

Since this is a business they already have the Texas market courtesy A&M and have grown to love their new conference mate. Tsip arrogance and entitlement combined with bringing NOTHING new to the table is a non-starter. Of course them even being in the discussion would require A&M, Arkansas, Mizzou, LSU, Florida, Georgia and USC to vote against their business interests.

Because cable television as we know it will soon be obsolete, we need to stop thinking in terms of regional markets when discussing conference network deals. Conference networks will be web-based, and therefore measured by individual subscribers as opposed to measured by regions. Given UT's enormous fanbase, you can bet the SEC will consider them as an option.
If you added OU only you would have Texas fans watching just like they watch A&M now. The SEC already owns the Houston and the East Texas(sliver) market and Austin is one of the SEC's top markets when it comes to viewers. Why add Texas?

Texas needs to take their act West to the PAC...can you imagine how much the PAC would make just by adding all those longhorn games, you've seen how the LHN has taken off(welfare check for Texas).
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t.u. = clown show
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OU has a resume based on results, and long success in a number of sports. Next would be Kansas, based on basketball. Otherwise I would not even take a moment to look at any of their other schools for the SEC.
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MSU/SECALUM said:

Your Friend said:

fistofsouth said:

runontexas said:

Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second

Since this is a business they already have the Texas market courtesy A&M and have grown to love their new conference mate. Tsip arrogance and entitlement combined with bringing NOTHING new to the table is a non-starter. Of course them even being in the discussion would require A&M, Arkansas, Mizzou, LSU, Florida, Georgia and USC to vote against their business interests.

Because cable television as we know it will soon be obsolete, we need to stop thinking in terms of regional markets when discussing conference network deals. Conference networks will be web-based, and therefore measured by individual subscribers as opposed to measured by regions. Given UT's enormous fanbase, you can bet the SEC will consider them as an option.
If you added OU only you would have Texas fans watching just like they watch A&M now. The SEC already owns the Houston and the East Texas(sliver) market and Austin is one of the SEC's top markets when it comes to viewers. Why add Texas?

Yes there are a lot of Aggie in Houston and Austin, but there are a lot more Texas fans. In fact, based on merchandise sales, there are more UT fans than there are at any current SEC school. Why add Texas? Because they bring massive value, no matter which way you slice it.
petey88
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biggest clown show too, except for baylro right now
JADE
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Time for Loftin's quote.
It's push, time to build the stack!
ntxVol
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Your Friend said:

MSU/SECALUM said:

Your Friend said:

fistofsouth said:

runontexas said:

Since this is a business, they're going to want UT even at the expense of A&M....

OU second

Since this is a business they already have the Texas market courtesy A&M and have grown to love their new conference mate. Tsip arrogance and entitlement combined with bringing NOTHING new to the table is a non-starter. Of course them even being in the discussion would require A&M, Arkansas, Mizzou, LSU, Florida, Georgia and USC to vote against their business interests.

Because cable television as we know it will soon be obsolete, we need to stop thinking in terms of regional markets when discussing conference network deals. Conference networks will be web-based, and therefore measured by individual subscribers as opposed to measured by regions. Given UT's enormous fanbase, you can bet the SEC will consider them as an option.
If you added OU only you would have Texas fans watching just like they watch A&M now. The SEC already owns the Houston and the East Texas(sliver) market and Austin is one of the SEC's top markets when it comes to viewers. Why add Texas?

Yes there are a lot of Aggie in Houston and Austin, but there are a lot more Texas fans. In fact, based on merchandise sales, there are more UT fans than there are at any current SEC school. Why add Texas? Because they bring massive value, no matter which way you slice it.
We keep hearing this from the tu side but no one can actually quantify the value that tu would actually add. There is little, if any, value they could add to the SECN. Can you please explain how tu would add 40+ million annually to the SEC coffers? Otherwise, there is little to discuss on that subject.

The SEC has been pretty conservative with expansion. Although the move to 12 and adding a CCG was seen as a bold move at the time, it has proven to be a good one. Going to 14 was about creating the SECN and I don't believe the conference will expand again without having a clear plan to improve the bottom line. There is going to be some pretty big upheavals in the sports media markets over the next few years, if tu wants to convince people they have something to offer, now would be the time to begin putting some hard numbers behind your hubris.
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JADE said:

Time for Loftin's quote.


And we all know that the leadership currently at the helm of TAMU wouldn't have the balls to even question tu if 2010 were to happen all over again.

Young and Sharp ain't no Bown Loftin.
 
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