Yawn, SEC makes almost double that.

Good for them, only $12m per school behind SEC.

Is that some redneck math?

Vanderbilt makes more than the Horns.

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Can someone please remind me how much the revenues were for the SEC schools?

Also, how much of that $300 million is being withheld from Baylor?

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Does that include the $100K+ each Big 12 member was going to get from ESPN for not expanding? SEC revenue was $40.4 million per member.

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Doesn't include third-tier media rights such as the Longhorn Network or other multithousand dollar deals for other Big 12 schools.

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etexorange said:

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Doesn't include third-tier media rights such as the Longhorn Network or other multimillion dollar deals for other Big 12 schools.

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So add your ~$5MM LHN money to that. Feel better now?

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Doesn't include third-tier media rights such as the Longhorn Network or other multimillion dollar deals for other Big 12 schools.

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It doesn't, but we know that the LHN pays around $12 million a year. So Texas made just less $29M add the $12M from the LHN and you brought in $41M while all SEC members made $40.4M. No other Big 12 members are making what the SEC members are...OU, KU & WVU make less than $8M. By this time next year all SEC members will surpass what Texas brings in, so it appears that the SEC as a collective body with superior conference leadership made a great long term business decision.

After next years conference payouts will Texas start to squirm? The SEC is locked in with ESPN for 20+ years as is the ACC so our revenues won't be going down. About the time the Big 12 GOR's expire the SEC will be at the table with CBS or some other entity that will be negotiating for its Tier 1 rights. ESPN pretty much gave the Big 12 the finger when the conference tried to back door them by adding G5 members. So, what does the Big 12's next deal look like? I suspect ESPN won't be at the table and unless FOX steps up and makes a play for a lot more money will Texas and OU stick around and make less money in the Big 12?

Enjoy your last few years with your conference mates like Baylor. A revamped SWC isn't going to bring in the money, ESPN & FOX overpaid the conference to keep it together until ESPN decides to **** can it. The SEC is not going to take you because we're all aware of the drama queen attitude and failing to realize there is something to being a team player. I foresee the B!G or PAC as your next home, going to the B1G I suspect you will have to buy in to the Big Ten network and unless you agree to sell off the LHN network the PAC won't be interested. We'll see how this plays out next year and how long your ego allows you to accept the fact that Mississippi State & Vanderbilt make more money than the mighty Texas Longhorns as well as all the Big Ten members. Maybe a 5 year buy in like WVU & TCU got will provide you with the humility that is long overdue...there will be no more Texas dictating to conference members or commissioners. I am curious as too how much A&M, Nebraska, Colorado & Missouri would have commanded if they had stayed in the Big 12 and been at the table for your next media deal?

You left out IMG's cut of the money, and that half of it goes to academics. The athletic department does not and will not ever see $15MM from the lhn.

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You left out IMG's cut of the money, and that half of it goes to academics. The athletic department does not and will not ever see $15MM from the lhn.

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I don't think you're being fair, that money is going to the Vince Young School of Financial Management & the Wonderlic Testing Center.

The sip athletic department makes about $6-7M from Tier 3 LHN rights.

$29M + $7M = $36M for the sips.
$40.4M for every SEC member institution.

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We'll see how this plays out next year and how long your ego allows you to accept the fact that Mississippi State & Vanderbilt make more money than the mighty Texas Longhorns as well as all the Big Ten members.

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Miss. State and Vandy have a long way to go to bring in $190 million/year on a regular basis. So this is demonstrably wrong.

There are things like branding (that big orange Longhorn head you have to look at every day you drive to work in Austin) and merchandising (those orange t-shirts) that separate the Mississippi States from the Texas Longhorns. We don't need to ride a coattail.

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It appears OU is the more valuable member of the conference so yes you are riding coattails because even with all those high dollar coaches and 4 & 5 star players you have you haven't won anything in more than 10 years. Since that time Mississippi State has been to the CWS CG, the Women's final a New Years day Bowl and been #1 in the first ever CFB Playoff rankings...what has your team done in that time? The Texas logo & Walmart burnt orange garbage gives you money and we've seen exactly how you've spent it and what its done for you.

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etexorange said:

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Doesn't include third-tier media rights such as the Longhorn Network or other multimillion dollar deals for other Big 12 schools.

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It doesn't, but we know that the LHN pays around $12 million a year. So Texas made just less $29M add the $12M from the LHN and you brought in $41M while all SEC members made $40.4M. No other Big 12 members are making what the SEC members are...OU, KU & WVU make less than $8M. By this time next year all SEC members will surpass what Texas brings in, so it appears that the SEC as a collective body with superior conference leadership made a great long term business decision.

After next years conference payouts will Texas start to squirm? The SEC is locked in with ESPN for 20+ years as is the ACC so our revenues won't be going down. About the time the Big 12 GOR's expire the SEC will be at the table with CBS or some other entity that will be negotiating for its Tier 1 rights. ESPN pretty much gave the Big 12 the finger when the conference tried to back door them by adding G5 members. So, what does the Big 12's next deal look like? I suspect ESPN won't be at the table and unless FOX steps up and makes a play for a lot more money will Texas and OU stick around and make less money in the Big 12?

Enjoy your last few years with your conference mates like Baylor. A revamped SWC isn't going to bring in the money, ESPN & FOX overpaid the conference to keep it together until ESPN decides to **** can it. The SEC is not going to take you because we're all aware of the drama queen attitude and failing to realize there is something to being a team player. I foresee the B!G or PAC as your next home, going to the B1G I suspect you will have to buy in to the Big Ten network and unless you agree to sell off the LHN network the PAC won't be interested. We'll see how this plays out next year and how long your ego allows you to accept the fact that Mississippi State & Vanderbilt make more money than the mighty Texas Longhorns as well as all the Big Ten members. Maybe a 5 year buy in like WVU & TCU got will provide you with the humility that is long overdue...there will be no more Texas dictating to conference members or commissioners. I am curious as too how much A&M, Nebraska, Colorado & Missouri would have commanded if they had stayed in the Big 12 and been at the table for your next media deal?

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oh sh*t!

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We have the worst types of chumps. Low-profile schools with no fan/media base but great teams that can beat you is not what you want for chumps. What you want for chumps are big institutions with lots of media, lots of fans, but weak teams that you can beat.

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Comment from Orange Bloods talking about who to have in your conference.

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Wow. I read that and had to read it again and again. I know that is what the sips think but I have never read that in print.

News Flash for sips: Teams with lots of fans, media and money do not exist in the BDF. Teams like this are in the SEC.

BTW you will never be in the SEC as long as the Aggies, Arkansas and Missouri have a vote.

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We have the worst types of chumps. Low-profile schools with no fan/media base but great teams that can beat you is not what you want for chumps. What you want for chumps are big institutions with lots of media, lots of fans, but weak teams that you can beat.

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Going 6-7, 5-7, 5-7 over the last 3 seasons and talking sh-t about the quality of competition is pretty eff'ing rich!

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goodAg80 said:

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We have the worst types of chumps. Low-profile schools with no fan/media base but great teams that can beat you is not what you want for chumps. What you want for chumps are big institutions with lots of media, lots of fans, but weak teams that you can beat.

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Going 6-7, 5-7, 5-7 over the last 3 seasons and talking sh-t about the quality of competition is pretty eff'ing rich! means that you're one of the chumps.

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