idAg09 said:
fourth deck said:
They are required to remove PMI when you reach 78% original LTV according to the original amortization schedule. I.e. you can't pay extra and have it removed automatically early. However, paying extra and getting it down to 80% does trigger the option of having you request removal and getting an appraisal or broker estimate.
I am currently in the same boat and just waiting for a good time this year to have someone come take a look at our place. The misinformation from the mortgage servicers are real. First time I called up they were trying to tell me some garbage about needing 75%. I had to dig out my original mortgage papers to back up my assumptions. Your original mortgage papers will probably also have the date that you are scheduled to reach 78%.
Be careful and make sure you get accurate information and understand the terms. I just went through this based on what a Wells Fargo Rep told me and wasted $500.
For us, we had to reach 78% LTV for them to automatically drop the PMI. However, this LTV target is only valid on the original LTV when the house was purchased and appraised, not a current LTV with new appraisal.
If you want to use a new appraisal's LTV, the new threshold drops to 75%. This meant that my new LTV of 79% with the new appraisal still doesn't meet their requirements to drop PMI. I can pay down to hit 80% of original appraised value, but can't use the new appraisal to say I now am at 80%.
Sucks I lost $500, but lesson learned for me. Make sure you check and recheck!
MI removal requirements on primary single family residence is:
1. Scheduled payment of 80% LTV based upon original appraised value the borrower can request removal of MI.
2. MI will automatically cancel based upon the scheduled payment at 78% LTV using original appraised value.
3. MI must be maintained for 2 years, after 2 years it can be removed if LTV is <75% based upon market value.
4. After 5 years of the mortgage the MI can be removed based upon new market value at 80% LTV.
You cannot use the original appraisal value to justify LTV calculations with the exception of the original amortization. In other words you cannot pay down your mortgage faster and expect to have MI removed at 75% or 80% LTV (depending on loan seasoning) without having an appraisal done to ensure market conditions haven't worsened since the loan was originated.