The team has published their stand

9,031 Views | 78 Replies | Last: 3 yr ago by trackaggie76
Rudybryan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Woke247
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Well written and expressed and great timing. Hate it or love it but you have to respect it. Some are so stuck in their ways but the world for sure needs change. A lot of it. Any change is uncomfortable to anybody Initially especially at A&M but i admire their courage to take a stand under scrutiny.
Bucketrunner
How long do you want to ignore this user?
1955?????


So unhappy we bought season tickets. Can we get a refund on those at this time?
Gap
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm not sure who they are fighting against.

Most everyone would agree with the majority of that post. Then, there are a couple of items included that are designed to inflame but they don't support with evidence. They throw it out there as fact when it is dubious.

And just checking, but was curious based on the post whether Texas A&M women's basketball welcomes white, Hispanic, and Asian women into our program. We just seemed to offer our beliefs for one race which is not inclusive.
cs69ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Every day I have less interest in watching sports or attending.
Many of us will be voting with our feet and our pocket book..
I am still a season ticket holder for now.....that may change.
At some point, universities may not be able to afford to give athletic scholarships.
Gap
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A black woman was sexually assaulted in Kenosha.

Our WBB program said they will no longer be quiet, but here we are quiet about it. I'm confused by the message they put out now. I believe our society should protect women and children and also that police and elected leadership in these cities and states should be held accountable for their actions.
greg.w.h
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The statement puts faith in change but does not prescribe a solution. I'll note that the change over time has improved the situation but not resolved it.

I hope with them that the people in the United States will seek further racial reconciliation that leads to the complete, perfect realization of the Dream in MLKjr's famous speech.
AgDad77
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I guess the team is good with that piece of trash sexually assaulting and stealing that females car that called the cops??

I guess they are OK with all the blacks constantly getting butchered in Chicago and other big cities every weekend by other blacks??.

I guess the team is good with the fact that 70-75% of every black child is born fatherless!!

Pretty Quiet about that!!

Selective Outrage!!
greg.w.h
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AgDad77 said:


I guess the team is good with the fact that 70-75% of every black child is born fatherless!!!
oklaunion
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The last sentence of the 2nd paragraph of their statement is confusing to me but at least it reinforces my belief they won't be kneeling at the national anthem, per ...or the patriotism we display.
Rudybryan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
greg.w.h
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
greg.w.h said:

AgDad77 said:


I guess the team is good with the fact that 70-75% of every black child is born fatherless!!!

I didn't quote that to get stars btw...
Thymes
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Yes, the team has taken its stand and so have several of you.

Those of us who support their right to speak out will be there for them this season.

If anybody wants to sell his or her season tickets at face value, PM me with your seat locations.
Gap
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I am just uncomfortable with the school officially promoting political actions. They are an arm of the government of Texas and should not be doing so. The individual players can do whatever they want. But don't manipulate the official school entity to support your politics. And now an assistant coach piggybacking on the official school message encouraging me to vote for change.

I interpret this to mean kick the democrats out of all these localities with the problems being protested. All are run by democrats. She wants change. The democrats were elected and ran local government and police in nearly every city being protested. So, an official school account is being used to urge us to Vote Republican. And I would say the same if the school was encouraging me to vote democrat. It is just inappropriate to use the school account to promote anyone's politics.

Rudybryan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Gap

Since Trump is being blamed for the riots etc I don't know how you can possibly think they want you to vote Republican. The BLM is aligned with the Democratic party......so reread to comprehend what is being said.Bernie Sanders socialism lurking in the corners of TAMU
Gap
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
As these are local policing issues in democratic cities with democratic prosecutors as well and I'm being urged to vote for change, I'm pretty sure it is a message in these cities to enact change and:

VOTE REPUBLICAN
AgDad77
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG

Thymes

YAWN!!!

You seem to use the same tired, old statement about filling someones void and buying their tickets at face value if they decide to stop attending games in your post. You have used that same statement before on another thread.

I have a novel idea for you.

Why dont you get off your butt - go to the 12th Man Foundation - Drop down the donation required for season tickets and GET YOUR OWN - that way you dont have to fill any void plus you actually get to support $$ something.



Thymes
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AgDad77 said:


Thymes

YAWN!!!

You seem to use the same tired, old statement about filling someones void and buying their tickets at face value if they decide to stop attending games in your post. You have used that same statement before on another thread.

I have a novel idea for you.

Why dont you get off your butt - go to the 12th Man Foundation - Drop down the donation required for season tickets and GET YOUR OWN - that way you dont have to fill any void plus you actually get to support $$ something.




I already have access to season tickets. I'm offering to mitigate the misery of those who bought tickets, but who can no longer stand to be in the presence of our Women's Basketball team.

As for actually supporting something, I'm a member of Blair's Buddies, attend the luncheons, and go on at least one road trip a year. I made the trip to Spain a few years ago.

Our ladies have the right to express their beliefs on topics other than basketball. If you can't take it, don't make yourself miserable by going to the games. I'll find someone else who would like your tickets.
Rudybryan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Well this just happened.....UNION SPRINGS, Ala.
August 28, 2020 at 12:45 PM CDT - Updated August 28 at 6:40 PM

who will walk for this poor black man

Alabama Pedestrian Killed Allegedly for Crossing Street Too Slowly: Cops
he was shot by a black man 8 times for walking too slow

Dammit all this crap needs to stop......All lives matter.......not selective ones - no one should fear -
but looting and burning people's businesses and cities is not going to end it -

where is the problem starting.......to find a solution to a problem you need to find the why. How about
open discussions on why these problems exist. Why do people think they can loot someone's store and burn black businesses while claiming to protest against black crime? Guess what in most American cities that is a crime. Where is their moral fiber knowing the difference between right and wrong. Where did we learn such hate? Disrespect for others?

AgDad77
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
So does having access to season tickets mean they are your tickets that you have bought and paid for?
I have access to a crap ton of tickets also - but I also have my own - just saying.

Don't see any AG tag or 12th Man Foundation tag either - just saying.
hsvag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Okla, I hope you are right but I suspect you're wrong. And if they kneel, I'll leave for the season.
You know, it used to be that sports was the one place I could go to escape politics and other negative impacts on quality of life.
AgDad77
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Yep its pretty sad Rudy - just multiply that several times and we get a typical weekend in Chicago!

The garbage that some folks put out there about All Black Lives Matter is just a LIE because they just dont.

Proof is the carnage that has been taking place in places like Chicago where blacks are continually being butchered by other blacks and those communities are in constant upheaval but nothing said about those lives or those communities!!

But when a black POS is killed by a white cop all hell breaks loose - actually that happening is just a very tiny % of black killings - barley a blip on the scale.

Certain lives just dont fit the narrative and are continuously and conveniently swept under the rug.

Some folks are either just too ignorant or lazy to see.

Some folks need a strong dose of Damani Felder!!
Inca
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/06/24/chicagoans-do-protest-gun-violence-and-organize-for-safer-neighborhoods-all-the-time-heres-how/

No media coverage is not the same as not happening. (A friend of mine who lives in Chicago brought this to my attention a bit ago.)
cs69ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I hear our volleyball team knelt for our National Anthem yesterday prior to their home opener with LSU.
If the wbb team does that, I will be out of Reed as fast as I can climb the stairs from my seat, and will not return
until there is a change. I will not support any wbb function in person until this is changed.

I go to athletic events to support Aggie Student Athletes, not political statements. I go for the athletic competition,
not politics. Plenty of time, other forums and other venues for politics. It does not need to be comingled with athletic events.

Support your Country and your University. Appreciate the freedoms you have been gives and the scholarship that you have! Political activism is fine. It just does not belong at our athletic events.



greg.w.h
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
cs69ag said:

I hear our volleyball team knelt for our National Anthem yesterday prior to their home opener with LSU.
If the wbb team does that, I will be out of Reed as fast as I can climb the stairs from my seat, and will not return
until there is a change. I will not support any wbb function in person until this is changed.

I go to athletic events to support Aggie Student Athletes, not political statements. I go for the athletic competition,
not politics. Plenty of time, other forums and other venues for politics. It does not need to be comingled with athletic events.

Support your Country and your University. Appreciate the freedoms you have been gives and the scholarship that you have! Political activism is fine. It just does not belong at our athletic events.




I think that using private funds donated by individuals to make your stand is not helpful. But those funds come through a government funded institution so Texas A&M cannot overlook the First Amendment. It's a necessary liberty.

Being able to protest meaningfully and truly peacefully is a right the government can't abrogate and should not. The private funding of scholarships are also built to an extent on the government funding of the capital improvement where the team plays. The McFerrin-Cox Center on the other hand is strongly supported with private funds. But the university runs the Athletic Department.

I think we need to trust the AD and the coaching staffs to run our various programs in compliance with the Constitution and the law not to mention university policy. But you do also have the right to peacefully protest by denying participation and funds.
Bucketrunner
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It's a wonderful privilege to deny them that platform by removing ourselves and our money.
cs69ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
No questions re First Amendment rights!

Question is about judgement re forums and venues for scholarship athletes to express their political views.


Gap
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The school isn't going to let me and my friends bring in signs to promote my political views and candidates. It was decided some time ago inside the venue was not the time or place. Seems reasonable and I abide.

If players want to show off their political stances, some will likely agree and applaud and others will show their displeasure with a boo or hiss.

We are there to enjoy some basketball and pull for our team. Why not leave the other stuff we may agree or disagree on outside the arena. It doesn't make me like or dislike you as a person and some today take their politics too personally.
hsvag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
What cs69ag said. Waiting to see if WBB will take a knee during the anthem at their first game. If so, I'll walk and skip the rest of the season, adding WBB to soccer and volleyball. I'm OK with the videos and statements and so on, but this Ag still considers that act disrespecting the flag. Depending on how the other sport's coaches handle things, it may be a very skinny sports watching year.
trackaggie76
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I would be shocked if they didn't kneel this year. I am sorting out how to react when it occurs. I have supported the program since the 90's and will likely continue regardless. As a veteran it is difficult to watch but I respect our freedoms.
Bucketrunner
How long do you want to ignore this user?
i don't see rewarding their poor behavior. jmho
cs69ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I will likely watch on tv, but not attend games or any in person functions as long as dishonoring our flag and national anthem continues. I will not renew my season ticket until this ends. My guess is that not all the team members are in favor of the team "stand", but the younger or newer with the program members have gone along. Of course, I don't know that, and hope there are those not participating....using judgement and understanding they have lots of other forums and venues to get political.
rrtodds
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
trackaggie76 said:

I would be shocked if they didn't kneel this year. I am sorting out how to react when it occurs. I have supported the program since the 90's and will likely continue regardless. As a veteran it is difficult to watch but I respect our freedoms.

They don't have to kneel. There are plenty of ways to support a cause ... exercise free speech.

A choice to dishonor the National Anthem and the Stars and Stripes in the faces of a very patriotic and conservative community and fan base will be truly sad and unfortunate.

I will join all those who choose to walk out if kneeling occurs during the Nat Athem.
Sam75
Rudybryan
How long do you want to ignore this user?
If they kneel I am out of there.........
greg.w.h
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
My only concern is separating the coaching and athletic admin from the players. As I noted they have very little latitude because it's viewed as first amendment due to being a government institution. The players are kids and caught up in a moment. It's an important moment. But easy to make choices that with more consideration might be different in the future.

I will say Texas A&M has come a long way sinnce the 60s and I think the vast majority of that change reflects adherence to especially the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Title IX and was and is the right change out of respect to properly legislated law.
Last Page
Page 1 of 3
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.