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Felt ROKU discussion deserves its own thread like TSLA has. Been an interesting stock with tremendous potential and had been a stock markets thread favorite for a while. And an Aggie CEO to top it off.

At 133.62 as a type this. Been a volatile stock today (earning call yesterday) climbing above $151 at one point and now down on the day.

I'm still a buyer of the stock and on a personal note I love the technology interface. I have not cut the cord yet due to lack of Astros coverage on any of the streaming services. If that's ever fixed it's my last hurdle to dropping cable. There's still a large market to capture and ROKU is incredibly well primed to benefit from Netflix growth, Disney + growth, ESPN + and related growth and really all the streaming services and importantly they will benefit from shifting advertisement trends.
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I have ROKU but not familiar with its business model but since so many TVs are now smart tvs, and they are all trending that way what is ROKU doing long term to stay successful and maintain or grow customers?
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

I have ROKU but not familiar with its business model but since so many TVs are now smart tvs, and they are all trending that way what is ROKU doing long term to stay successful and maintain or grow customers?
International.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

I have ROKU but not familiar with its business model but since so many TVs are now smart tvs, and they are all trending that way what is ROKU doing long term to stay successful and maintain or grow customers?

I'm not sure if this is what you meant or not when you said smart TV's, but there are a number of TV's on the market now with Roku baked in. That's their interface for the TV. So, I would guess that is part of their long-term plan maybe.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

I have ROKU but not familiar with its business model but since so many TVs are now smart tvs, and they are all trending that way what is ROKU doing long term to stay successful and maintain or grow customers?


Market leader in streaming devices. Not likely to lose that spot.

This book "22 immutable laws of marketing" gives good insight into winners and losers from a marketing and market share perspective, and ROKU checks a lot of boxes right now for maintaining its place at the top.

On a side note, this is a good book I think stock pickers should read. Gives warning signs whether a company is likely to be trending up or down in their sector.
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Ag13 said:

Felt ROKU discussion deserves its own thread like TSLA has. Been an interesting stock with tremendous potential and had been a stock markets thread favorite for a while. And an Aggie CEO to top it off.

At 133.62 as a type this. Been a volatile stock today (earning call yesterday) climbing above $151 at one point and now down on the day.

I'm still a buyer of the stock and on a personal note I love the technology interface. I have not cut the cord yet due to lack of Astros coverage on any of the streaming services. If that's ever fixed it's my last hurdle to dropping cable. There's still a large market to capture and ROKU is incredibly well primed to benefit from Netflix growth, Disney + growth, ESPN + and related growth and really all the streaming services and importantly they will benefit from shifting advertisement trends.


I'm in CA and use ROKU to watch the Astros.
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hypeiv said:

I am probably in the minority but the dispute they had with Fox opened my eyes to the fact I had inadvertently added another middleman in between me and the content I pay for. If they ever go so far as to remove a functioning app over such a dispute I could see consumers losing a lot of faith in the company.
I agree with this sentiment. The mantra for the digital age is "Content is King."

Roku is a quasi cable company. I was an early adopter in cord cutting and admire the business (and use the product), but I think within the next decade Roku gets smoked because it's a middleman. It's only gonna get easier to connect to a web application hosted by the content provider.
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All that said, There's absolutely money to be made on it right now and I wish y'all the best of luck. I won't suffer from FOMO on this one though.
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On MLB tv? I was referring to getting AT&T sports net specifically. I know some over the internet tv packages have Fox Sports SW (Rangers) but none that I know it carry AT&T yet. As mentioned Mlb tv is blacked out in Texas for Rangers and Astros which is a whole different discussion that I actually agree with Trevor Bauer on.

It's too bad because MLB tv is a great service otherwise. I have been a subscriber for several years to flip around. MLB Advanced Media is a great story. They were true pioneers in streaming and content interface.
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hypeiv said:

I agree there is money to be made with the stock. I can just see myself switching to another device if they ever remove an app I use.

They don't do much to lock you into their eco system so if for example they got into a dispute with YouTube TV and removed it, I am switching devices before I cancel YouTube TV and sign up for Hulu TV.


Middle men make lots of money.
Air BNB, Amazon, App stores, EBay.... ROKU is the leading market maker connecting streaming services to viewers, thats how I view ROKU. You can certainly shop other place than Amazon, or book outside of Air BNB, but ROKU has a bit of a moat in market share and software at the moment. Yes that can change, anyone can be knocked from the top spot if they don't innovate, but I think ROKU will be here to stay for a while.

The biggest threat imo will be cable corporations creating their own streaming hardware and software to use with their cable boxes and somehow revamping their pricing models to compete with streaming services.
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ROKU's CEO Anthony Woods said that by 2024, half of tv viewers will have cut the cord and young viewers will only know streaming. At least right now, streaming is cheaper and with ROKU going international, there are about 7 billion pairs of eyeballs to fight for. That's powerful!

I've been long the ROKU for 1.5 years at an average price of $37. There just aren't that many public companies out there growing at 40-50%/year with the kind of opportunity in front of them that ROKU currently has.
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hypeiv said:

I think FuboTV has it


You are right. Looks like no espn though
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deadbq03 said:

hypeiv said:

I am probably in the minority but the dispute they had with Fox opened my eyes to the fact I had inadvertently added another middleman in between me and the content I pay for. If they ever go so far as to remove a functioning app over such a dispute I could see consumers losing a lot of faith in the company.
I agree with this sentiment. The mantra for the digital age is "Content is King."

Roku is a quasi cable company. I was an early adopter in cord cutting and admire the business (and use the product), but I think within the next decade Roku gets smoked because it's a middleman. It's only gonna get easier to connect to a web application hosted by the content provider.
ROKU is an aggregator of content. They are not reselling it like a cable company.
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Ragoo said:

deadbq03 said:

hypeiv said:

I am probably in the minority but the dispute they had with Fox opened my eyes to the fact I had inadvertently added another middleman in between me and the content I pay for. If they ever go so far as to remove a functioning app over such a dispute I could see consumers losing a lot of faith in the company.
I agree with this sentiment. The mantra for the digital age is "Content is King."

Roku is a quasi cable company. I was an early adopter in cord cutting and admire the business (and use the product), but I think within the next decade Roku gets smoked because it's a middleman. It's only gonna get easier to connect to a web application hosted by the content provider.
ROKU is an aggregator of content. They are not reselling it like a cable company.


And that web app will be on your TV using a ROKU.
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Philip J Fry said:

Ag13 said:

Felt ROKU discussion deserves its own thread like TSLA has. Been an interesting stock with tremendous potential and had been a stock markets thread favorite for a while. And an Aggie CEO to top it off.

At 133.62 as a type this. Been a volatile stock today (earning call yesterday) climbing above $151 at one point and now down on the day.

I'm still a buyer of the stock and on a personal note I love the technology interface. I have not cut the cord yet due to lack of Astros coverage on any of the streaming services. If that's ever fixed it's my last hurdle to dropping cable. There's still a large market to capture and ROKU is incredibly well primed to benefit from Netflix growth, Disney + growth, ESPN + and related growth and really all the streaming services and importantly they will benefit from shifting advertisement trends.


I'm in CA and use ROKU to watch the Astros.
Everyone outside of Astros market can watch Astros on just about any device.

It's those in Houston that have to find the workaround.
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We have been ROKU-only on our three TVs since about 2015. I like the clean, simple interface. Having said that, I bought a new Samsung TV yesterday and using its native smart app, I don't need the ROKU on that TV.

I don't like that Samsung assaults me with "free" live TV when I turn it on. I don't want to listen to Gordon Ramsay yell at some dumbass while I'm navigating to MyOutdoorTV to watch bass fishing shows.

I need to see if I can disable that.
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After watching big jumps for 2 years i finally got in on it, which may habe been a terrible idea. We shall see....
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Bought in when it was under 40 and the Aggie CEO had made his first billion
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JSKolache said:

After watching big jumps for 2 years i finally got in on it, which may habe been a terrible idea. We shall see....

I feel your pain. Bought in last week too. Couldn't pick a worse time.
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Beerosch said:

JSKolache said:

After watching big jumps for 2 years i finally got in on it, which may habe been a terrible idea. We shall see....

I feel your pain. Bought in last week too. Couldn't pick a worse time.


Buy more
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Why is Roku selling off so much? I'd think with more people being home there would be more Roku use? Heck, my wife just went and bought another one when she got assigned to be work from home. Despite that, Roku seems to have sold off more than the market average.
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bmks270 said:

Why is Roku selling off so much? I'd think with more people being home there would be more Roku use? Heck, my wife just went and bought another one when she got assigned to be work from home. Despite that, Roku seems to have sold off more than the market average.


No real idea all I know is I bought today
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It's a growth stock...high flyer during good times....max pain during bad.
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Got down into the 60's during the market fall caused by the corona virus, but is back up to the level from the OP - currently at $133.40, a gain of ~4.6% today. Turns out this was a great stay at home stock.

Earnings today after hours
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Over $220 this morning
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I just sold a good chunk to go net free on my holdings.
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Killin Me Smalls said:

I just sold a good chunk to go net free on my holdings.
I went ahead and did the same thing!
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I went all in on my retirement and trading account at $125 in Feb. Quickly lost half my money on paper and stayed disciplined. Kept averaging down through March with covered calls. And now we are here.

People on the stock market thread kept me level headed on the long term opportunity of the company. I dug in and did as much research to learn more and more about their business. And now I am confident this company can be a $100B company in the future... And I think there are larger tail winds of they break up Amazon and Google because those companies streaming sticks are funded by the parent company.
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Above $250 today
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Roku $400 today
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Aggiesincebirth said:

I went all in on my retirement and trading account at $125 in Feb. Quickly lost half my money on paper and stayed disciplined. Kept averaging down through March with covered calls. And now we are here.

People on the stock market thread kept me level headed on the long term opportunity of the company. I dug in and did as much research to learn more and more about their business. And now I am confident this company can be a $100B company in the future... And I think there are larger tail winds of they break up Amazon and Google because those companies streaming sticks are funded by the parent company.


Yeah, I'm getting more bullish on ROKU as I look around the landscape of streaming entertainment.

Comcast is a 200 billion dollar company. Well, I think ROKU will replace cable companies entirely and surpass them.

 
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