***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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Framber was supposed to start, but there's a high probability of rain, so he's gonna throw 3 innings in a backfield game
Wow Framber is too mentally weak to handle a spring shower. He probably can't deal with Florida humidity either.
It has to do with injury prevention.


Yeah he doesn't want his feelings to get hurt.
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Mathguy64 said:

Well I'm on the 10 day IL and can't start the season.

I have my first ever kidney stone. This is the worst pain imaginable.


I will be as well. Severely herniated discs causing pressure on my nerves and they can't fit me in for a fusion until first Friday of April. I can empathize
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Texaggie7nine said:


Love seeing these guys joke around with each other.
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Was the game today canceled?
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Good chance of rain, not called yet, but not looking optimistic
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Sorry, my friend. I have felt the pain so much that two hands can't count the number of times.
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Yikes
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I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.
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BeaumontAg05 said:

I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.


He'll hit a random HR vs us while they are down 8 runs
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Winning at home and beating the AL Central often are some changes I expect to see this season.
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Maldy is a career .255 hitter at the White Sox home stadium. That's like a normal person hitting .680
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BeaumontAg05 said:

I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.
Watch Maldy be the first C to hit for the cycle in like 20 years
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wangus12 said:

BeaumontAg05 said:

I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.
Watch Maldy be the first C to hit for the cycle in like 20 years
I can't imagine the little league hijinx that would have to ensue for him to get a triple...kinda like when Mancini got that inside the park homer with the Orioles because a fly ball nailed the outfielder right in the face
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EastCoastAgNc said:

wangus12 said:

BeaumontAg05 said:

I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.
Watch Maldy be the first C to hit for the cycle in like 20 years
I can't imagine the little league hijinx that would have to ensue for him to get a triple...kinda like when Mancini got that inside the park homer with the Orioles because a fly ball nailed the outfielder right in the face
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wangus12 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

wangus12 said:

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I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.
Watch Maldy be the first C to hit for the cycle in like 20 years
I can't imagine the little league hijinx that would have to ensue for him to get a triple...kinda like when Mancini got that inside the park homer with the Orioles because a fly ball nailed the outfielder right in the face

Here's the Mancini clip for those who don't remember it:

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Im sure you guys have discussed

Whats the better option, fubo or dtv stream? I have used fubo always but wondering if the other is better
It looks to be more expensive
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Talkin Baseball is talking about units that could surprise (good or bad). The first topic was the Astros SP disappointing.

  • JV is injured to start and 41
  • Relying on Javier to bounce back and fix the fastball
  • Framber's second half was poor and he's racking up some innings
  • Brown was expected to step up last year and wasn't it, especially in the 2nd half.

They completely misdiagnosed our second half overall though. We did better as a team in the 2nd half because our offense went nuts.

First Half: 51-41 (.549) - 89 win pace
Second Half: 40-31 (.563) - 91 win pace



I think they make a fair argument. However, it's just as easy or easier to make one than we'll be better.

  • As long as JV comes back before the deadline (he's expected very early in the season) he'll pitch more in 24 than 23.
  • Javier had his worst season by far. I think a bounce back is more likely than a regression.
  • Framber's overall was still good.
  • Brown's expected #s were much better than actual. He's the perfect candidate to have a big year.
  • LMJ & Garcia are coming. We'll get more in 24 from them than 23.
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I can see either scenario happening. If Framber and Javier bounce back we will be fine. I have a lot of faith in Javier but I do worry about Framber and his between the ears issues.

If I had to pick one I'd say we bounce back but not all the way back to 2022 form
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Much of Framber's issues were a nagging injury and fatigue. I'm not saying the mental stuff isn't a part of it because maybe it is.. but it's very overblown from everything I've been told. I'm sure those two things can exacerbate the whole mental thing though.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

wangus12 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:

wangus12 said:

BeaumontAg05 said:

I can't wait to play the whitesox and see Maldy get a months worth of hits in 1 game against us.
Watch Maldy be the first C to hit for the cycle in like 20 years
I can't imagine the little league hijinx that would have to ensue for him to get a triple...kinda like when Mancini got that inside the park homer with the Orioles because a fly ball nailed the outfielder right in the face

Here's the Mancini clip for those who don't remember it:


The highlight of the Astros' 1992 season - Butch Henry's first ML hit, a 3-run inside the park home run off Doug Drabek when Bonds dove for the ball and missed it in left field. Only player in MLB history with an inside-the-park homer as his first hit.

The real MVP of that play is not actually seen in the video. Pirates' CF ANdy Van Slyke, who hated Bonds and was hated in return by Bonds, gave absolutely zero effort to run over and get the ball after Bonds fell down.

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OD lineup for Javi
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EastCoastAgNc said:



We didn't see back to back big boy lineups in season last year…today we're seeing it in spring training.

Thanks Dusty
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Really liked Mancini and hope nothing but the best for that dude.
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gambochaman said:

Im sure you guys have discussed

Whats the better option, fubo or dtv stream? I have used fubo always but wondering if the other is better
It looks to be more expensive
I just signed up for DTV stream a couple weeks ago. It is like $4 more a month but it does have TBS/TNT if that is important to you. I like the fubo set up better though FWIW.
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Interesting thing in here...Ken references the fact that teams usually view a player as being worth $8-10M per WAR point
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EastCoastAgNc said:


Interesting thing in here...Ken references the fact that teams usually view a player as being worth $8-10M per WAR point
That is generally the calculation.

Fangraphs has a value set up at the bottom of each player's stats.



Here a Reddit User broke it down by position & type of contract from a few years ago



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EastCoastAgNc said:


Man, between guys like Will Clark, Mark Grace, and Sean Casey there must be something about lefty first basemen who hit for high average but marginal power because those guys are some of the funniest guys ever in baseball. Maybe it's all the time they spend jaw-jacking with opposing baserunners on first.
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