***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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The date was Friday, July 22, and the Astros were 30 games over .500 (62-32). They had a 9 game lead in the AL West and were clearly gearing up for another long post-season run.
But the focus and the buzz and the hype were not on the Astros, but on their opponents that night. At 51-42, the Seattle Mariners didn't seem all that much of a big story, but by God, those young guys had figured it out, racing to 22 wins in 25 games after a putrid 29-39 start. They had a 14 game win streak and a sellout crowd at Mocha Frappucino Stadium to welcome the Astros to town, fired up and ready to cut the gap in the AL West down to a smattering of games.

But what was the biggest series in 21 years for Seattle was just another day at the ball yard for the good guys. Jose Altuve hit a 2-0 pitch in the top of the first to put Seattle in a 1-0 hole on Friday night, and they never got out of it. Yordan homered, then Machete, The Astros snapped the old win streak with a 5-2 victory, won 3-1 on Saturday, and 8-5 on Sunday to push the lead to 13. All told the Astros won 6 of their remaining 7 games vs. Seattle in the regular season, and well, I don't have to tell you what happened in the playoffs.

The Orioles are not those Mariners at first glance. They've blown by the Rays after Tampa finally cooled off and even with back to back losses are still 2 games up in the East and 2-1/2 games up for the #1 seed in the AL. They have looked decidedly like the Astros transformation of a decade ago.
They were beyond horrific at 47-115 in 2018, 54-108 in 2019, 2020 didn't count, and 52-110 in 2021.
Last year, they figured it out, finally got all those young guys in place at once, and were in the wild card race until the end.

In 2022, their starting 8 position players ages were: 24, 25, 28, 27, 28, 26, 27, 27. Starting pitching was slightly above average, but the bullpen was really impressive.

Tampa Bay goes thermo-nuclear to start the year, and by April 12th (!) the Orioles are already 6 games out of first and they're treading water at 6-6. But they turn it around and end April 19-9, They lost 6 of 7 in early July to fall back to 6 games out of first, then win 8 straight to get within a game of the Rays. In mid-July, they take 3 of 4 games at Tampa to take over first place, and they've held the lead for 2 weeks.

And finally to my point. The Yankees and Red Sox are done and buried, they've put the Rays behind them at the moment, the Rangers are an unknown commodity, the AL Central is a late-night rerun on Comedy Central, and that leaves the defending WS champion, 2-time defending AL Champion, just-traded-for Justin Verlander Houston Astros coming to down; a perfect way for Baltimore to see what Baltimore is really about, and go up against AL playoff royalty in a potential post-season matchup.

And on Tuesday night, it looks like a perfect showcase. Their guy Framber is coming off a damn no-hitter and you rock him for 5 runs in the first 2 innings. And it's your 1-2 punch doing it- Rutschman and Mountcastle with long balls. It's 6-2 after 4 innings and now you're just kicking back, counting outs, and talking about what club to hit up after. There big guy thinks he's hit one out and Mateo pulls it back. Our night, baby!

Pena gets them within 3 after 8, but you've got Bautista ready to slam the door. Bautista with his league-leading 30 saves. Bautista who hasn't allowed an earned run since JUNE and has a freakishly low 0.85 ERA. Valdez for Cy Young? Really? Our guy Bautista on pace for 43 saves with a sub-1.00 ERA and is averaging SEVENTEEN strikeouts per nine innings. Those are Eckersley numbers. On par with the best of all time.

They sent up a guy who looks like he should be in your softball co-rec league to start the 9th. Jon Singleton? WTF is Jon Singleton? You've got to be kidding me. You have to look him up on BR.com and laugh out loud when you see he hasn't played in 2015.

You figure it's a 3 pitch strikeout, but somehow Bautista loses him to a walk. Then that rat ******* Altuve singles off of him and suddenly it's getting a little chilly at Camden. Bautista goes straight gas to fan Bregman on three pitches, and Alvarez lucks out when Mateo can't make a second circus catch.

But now the bases are loaded, but cmon, it's Bautista. Except that ball is carrying and carrying and carrying, and ... where the hell did all these Astro fans come from?

On Wednesday, it still smarts but you chalk it up to bad luck. Not even Bautista is perfect. He'll mow them down for sure tonight! Except that chance doesn't come. Because now it's Houston jumping out to the early lead, and then punching you in the mouth for 5 more in the last 2 innings. And just like that, you realize that these mother ****ers are a whole different animal, and for them this is just another series.






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I really don't know how y'all can follow and support jomboy. Not because of the trash can stuff. But because of the pure slander against Altuve with his completely made up buzzer story.
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Ag_07 said:

Except a six man rotation actually weakens the pen.

With a limit on the amount of pitchers you can carry that means one less BP arm.



If the starters can consistently go into the 6th and beyond it'll be great but if they have some stinkers in there it could snowball and make the BP actually worse.

It's a move that does have some risk to it.


My issue with the six man rotation is that it limits the number of starts for Verlander.
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BCEDAg said:

Ag_07 said:

Except a six man rotation actually weakens the pen.

With a limit on the amount of pitchers you can carry that means one less BP arm.



If the starters can consistently go into the 6th and beyond it'll be great but if they have some stinkers in there it could snowball and make the BP actually worse.

It's a move that does have some risk to it.


My issue with the six man rotation is that it limits the number of starts for Verlander.
Keeps him fresh for October
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I do not
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Games like the last two nights and watching with my family makes the MLB tv package so worth it for an out of state resident like me. Fun games.
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11:30 will be nice today

Hopefully brown can have a start like he did in the Bronx
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Weather shows rain currently in Baltimore, ending soon, with 30% chance during the game.

Might end up being a night game after all.
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If I'm Shohei, I'd only hit this season. Your team is out of it, free agent in 2 months and I personally think that's where his future is
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Johnsy3 said:

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The umpires are not helping keep their jobs behind home plate in the future.




Just terrible
Laz's boss: So Laz, you're missing the outside call like 95% of the time. Why don't you just stand directly behind the catcher to optimize your view?
Laz: That's just fan stuff.
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tjack16 said:



If I'm Shohei, I'd only hit this season. Your team is out of it, free agent in 2 months and I personally think that's where his future is
He's earning himself Correa-level medical criticism this offseason when they start negotiating contracts.
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This is something I've always wondered. Never really looked into it, but wondering why umpires have goofy angles at times. Or line up almost in between the batter and the catcher and expect to catch the opposite outside corners.
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Not even close

Correa shattered his leg when he was in the minors and had a standing reservation on the IL every season.

Ohtani plays both ways and hasn't had an IL stint that I can remember.
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SECcess12 said:

This is something I've always wondered. Never really looked into it, but wondering why umpires have goofy angles at times. Or line up almost in between the batter and the catcher and expect to catch the opposite outside corners.
Yeah it seems counter-intuitive but plenty do have weird angles. Maybe they took one in the facemask or crotch early in their career and moved aside out of self-preservation.

I don't know but I do know this...BRING ON THE MOTHERF***ING ROBO UMPS!!!
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IL stint ever or just this year? I swear the first couple of years he was hurt a decent amount of time
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W said:

Mariners (62-52) win again.

Seattle has gone from 50-50 to 62-52 in just over two weeks

if the Royals and A's don't put up any resistance, the M's have a good shot at the division title


Next up for the Mariners are the Orioles. The first place party for the birds could be short lived

The absolute worst thing that could happen for the Stros this year is a short wild card series against the Mariners. That rotation is stupid right now
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Fangraphs now has the Astros at a 52.5% chance to win the division. 40.1% for the Rangers and 7.1% for the Mariners.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Fangraphs now has the Astros at a 52.5% chance to win the division. 40.1% for the Rangers and 7.1% for the Mariners.
Wonder if a lot of that has to do with Rangers/Mariners playing each other 6 out of last 9 games. Seems like that could have a huge impact.
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Not the Japanese way. I'm sure there are some Japanese that make business decisions like that. But the majority don't. Doubt Shohei shuts himself down.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Fangraphs now has the Astros at a 52.5% chance to win the division. 40.1% for the Rangers and 7.1% for the Mariners.


Mariners still have 16 games remaining against the A's, Royals, and White Sox. They will be right there.
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Favorite to win the WS, make the WS, & make the CS in the AL.

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Betting odds have us as the favorites to win the AL (3/1) and third favorite to win the WS (7/1). Pretty interesting.
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Strangely I'm pulling for the Mariners whenever they aren't playing us. Need them to stay competitive and take some of those games from the Rangers.

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Prosperdick said:

SECcess12 said:

This is something I've always wondered. Never really looked into it, but wondering why umpires have goofy angles at times. Or line up almost in between the batter and the catcher and expect to catch the opposite outside corners.
Yeah it seems counter-intuitive but plenty do have weird angles. Maybe they took one in the facemask or crotch early in their career and moved aside out of self-preservation.

I don't know but I do know this...BRING ON THE MOTHERF***ING ROBO UMPS!!!


Not making excuses for Laz but it's actually taught that way... to line up over the inside shoulder of the catcher. Enables you to get lower and closer to the catcher. Also puts your eyes roughly on plane with the strike zone.

If you stand directly behind the catcher, you have to stand much more upright to try and see over his head, exposing you to more foul balls and makes judging the ball that is directly over the plate but might be a tad low much more difficult.

Still comes down to skill though.
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Astros fans looking at the improved odds and Dusty's going to bat Kessinger in cleanup today

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I'm going with

Altuve - 4
Bregman - 5
Alvarez - DH
Tucker - 9
Diaz - 2
Chas - 7
Abreu - 3
Pena - 6
Meyers - 8
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Thanks for explaining. That makes sense.
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Or Dusty's feeling it and comes up with the 'fan stuff' lineup of

4 Altuve
5 Bregman
7 Alvarez
9 Tucker
2 Diaz
8 McCormick
3 Singleton
6 Peña
DH Abreu
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Will be surprised if no singleton today
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Looks like they should get the game in today even if its a little nasty.
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Abreu looks tired, I think he deserves a day off.
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BMX Bandit said:

Will be surprised if no singleton today
I'm betting Singleton and no Yordan
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I have a feeling with the weather and potential wet field, Dusty's gonna empty the bench and try to protect the stars from injury.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

I have a feeling with the weather and potential wet field, Dusty's gonna empty the bench and try to protect the stars from injury.


So

4 Altuve
5 Bregman
DH Alvarez
9 Tucker
2 Diaz
7 McCormick
3 Singleton
6 Peña
8 Meyers
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