***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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2:08p, 8/1/23
AG
All depends on how much the Mets are throwing in and what we do with that money.

If we gave prospects to avoid paying his contract and use that savings to resign Tucker or Framber so be it but if they both end up walking this could backfire.
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2:08p, 8/1/23
Giggling at the office heeeheeeheee so ****ing excited
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:08p, 8/1/23
texasaggie2015 said:
Now which one of you guys were saying y'all would buy me a beer?
DM me your paypal/cashapp/whatever and Ill send you money for a beer!
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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2:08p, 8/1/23
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What's your plan in 2025 when Tucker walks..
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2:08p, 8/1/23
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This is where we need Dana the farm builder to really do his thing.
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2:09p, 8/1/23
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2:09p, 8/1/23
AG
You have to figure there's more to come with the continued outfield logjam
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2:09p, 8/1/23
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sooo how much salary does Crane have to eat?

this doesn't seem like a smart move
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2:09p, 8/1/23
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Hopefully Mets cover a ton of contract so we can open books up for Tucker but Crane refuses to go over 5 years and it's not gonna work out unless he does
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2:09p, 8/1/23
You knew it was going to cost a lot. I think we need reliable pitching this year and the next more than we need an all star outfielder in 4 years. Hopefully we lock up Tuck
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2:09p, 8/1/23
I bet we deal Jake Myers for a BP arm.
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In reply to Boiling Denim • 2:09p, 8/1/23
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Crane can go eff himself for his role in this off-season. What a freaking dope
Clearly a Crane move. Dana seems setup to fail here long-term. Hopefully he can get a ring as a going away present.
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2:09p, 8/1/23
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I cannot believe they included Clifford. Just wow.
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2:10p, 8/1/23
Extending Tucker has to be the long term plan with the idea of Yordan, Chas and Tucker locking down the outfield for years and years to come
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2:10p, 8/1/23
Win another championship and I won't gaf about Gilbert and Clifford. Win now baby
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In reply to SECcess12 • 2:11p, 8/1/23
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SECcess12 said:
I bet we deal Jake Myers for a BP arm.
Yes please. Need some good news....
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2:11p, 8/1/23
Speculating that we are clearly all in this year then Dana trades away a vet for prospects in the offseason to reload. It's not sustainable to keep trading off prospects.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 2:11p, 8/1/23
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texasaggie2015 said:
I cannot believe they included Clifford. Just wow.
He's in A ball. You know how long the list is of guys who performed well in A ball then didn't once they moved up? It's like the longest list in baseball.
What do you boys want for breakfast BBQ ?.....OK Chili.
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2:12p, 8/1/23
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What's the chances we get Brantley back for playoffs?
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2:12p, 8/1/23
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So if the Mets aren't covering a massive part of this contract that means Crane effectively gave the Mets 2 top players for renting JV for 4 months. He could have just given JV the contract last winter and kept the players. That's a huge error.
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2:12p, 8/1/23
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If we're "all in" this year then we need to go get a bat and another BP arm.
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2:12p, 8/1/23
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I am 100% excited about getting JV back. He's exceeded my expectations this season with his recent run of good starts. However, he is still declining and I would expect him to further decline over the next 2 years. Giving up Gilbert & Clifford for him feels like way too much even if the Mets cover the majority of the remaining money. I **** on Arlington for overpaying for an aging arm and I think this is similarly bad. JV >>> Max though. I hope JV proves me wrong.
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2:12p, 8/1/23
AG
The answer on how much money we are paying for Verlander will probably give you your answer on how likely it is we will resign Tucker when he is a free agent.
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In reply to 409Texag • 2:12p, 8/1/23
409Texag said:
Win another championship and I won't gaf about Gilbert and Clifford. Win now baby
No doubt but it's a huge gamble. I don't know the exact odds but even a great team has at most a 25% chance of winning the WS. Baseball playoffs are funky, especially as they get longer.
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In reply to 409Texag • 2:12p, 8/1/23
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409Texag said:
Win another championship and I won't gaf about Gilbert and Clifford. Win now baby
adding JV won't do that. This team desperately needs another bat (or 2) and bullpen help.
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2:12p, 8/1/23
While Gilbert and Clifford are top prospects in our farm system, there's no guarantee they would be a game changer for us or any organization until late 2024 or 2025. You're getting back one of the greatest pitchers in all of baseball and are in another pennant race for at least 1.5 years and likely more.
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In reply to crowman2010 • 2:13p, 8/1/23
crowman2010 said:
What's the chances we get Brantley back for playoffs?
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2:13p, 8/1/23
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From that other thread


PatriotAg02 said:
Astros desperate to remain relevant.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 2:13p, 8/1/23
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Mathguy64 said:
So if the Mets aren't covering a massive part of this contract that means Crane effectively gave the Mets 2 top players for renting JV for 4 months. He could have just given JV the contract last winter and kept the players. That's a huge error.


JV is signed for 2.5 years likely
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 2:13p, 8/1/23
Mathguy64 said:
So if the Mets aren't covering a massive part of this contract that means Crane effectively gave the Mets 2 top players for renting JV for 4 months. He could have just given JV the contract last winter and kept the players. That's a huge error.
Next year as well with a vesting option. I agree though, there has to be a large amount of cash coming.
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In reply to crowman2010 • 2:13p, 8/1/23
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crowman2010 said:
What's the chances we get Brantley back for playoffs?
Brantley is not coming back.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:13p, 8/1/23
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Farmer1906 said:
I am 100% excited about getting JV back. He's exceeded my expectations this season with his recent run of good starts. However, he is still declining and I would expect him to further decline over the next 2 years. Giving up Gilbert & Clifford for him feels like way too much even if the Mets cover the majority of the remaining money. I **** on Arlington for overpaying for an aging arm and I think this is similarly bad. JV >>> Max thought. I hope JV proves me wrong.

Agree
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2:14p, 8/1/23
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2:14p, 8/1/23
AG
I'm fine with it... I'm honestly not that high on Gilbert and Clifford in A ball is hard to judge. The Astros need to stop messing around when it comes to Tucker though and just give him what he wants.
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In reply to cc10106 • 2:14p, 8/1/23
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cc10106 said:
crowman2010 said:
What's the chances we get Brantley back for playoffs?
We need a third LHH in the lineup, really hoping he can make it back even for mid-sept onward to have a shot of making the playoff roster.
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