***** 2023 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Add Trevor Bauer, as well. Dodgers are paying him 23M this year to not wear their uniform.
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scrimp said:

Add Trevor Bauer, as well. Dodgers are paying him 23M this year to not wear their uniform.

While true...That's not due to on-field performance or production.
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Wabs said:

Abreu has been bad, but to me Bregman has been just as much a disappointment. Between those two players (batting 2nd and 4th in the lineup), they were 1 for 19 with 6Ks in the Seattle series. Bregman was 0 for 10. That's obviously not going to cut it from those spots in the lineup.

Almost like they shouldn't still be in those spots in the lineup.
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scrimp said:

No doubt Abreu has been disappointing so far.

Arenado, Springer, and Abreu could all vie for your "dollar for dollar" award. But I think Bumgarner takes this title this year, barring an incredible redemption story....
You've got to be an active player in order to vie for the Harry Dunne LVP award or else we get into the Chris Davises and so on. I'm looking for the guy that is currently on the field making his team the worst he can make them.

One thing I think we can all agree on is that Abreu sucks and I wish we could instead be b1t<h!ing about Yuli and his replacement-level play on a cheap 1-yr deal.
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Wabs said:

Abreu has been bad, but to me Bregman has been just as much a disappointment. Between those two players (batting 2nd and 4th in the lineup), they were 1 for 19 with 6Ks in the Seattle series. Bregman was 0 for 10. That's obviously not going to cut it from those spots in the lineup.


One is a two-time WS champion, the other has only flamed out in early rounds of the playoffs. They both need to pick it up, obviously, but Bregs has earned some leeway from us fans due to past performance. Abreu ought not be shown that same courtesy IMO. He hasn't earned it, here at least.
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The problem with both is who are you replacing them with? Dubon turned back into the pumpkin he is. Maybe Chas can learn 1B?
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MaxPower said:

The problem with both is who are you replacing them with? Dubon turned back into the pumpkin he is. Maybe Chas can learn 1B?
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Bregman is going to be fine. I think it's time to let go of the dream that he's going to be a 40 HR MVP candidate and he does need to hit better, but people are still hung up on batting average and don't realize how valuable he is as a guy who is going to end up with a .350 OBP again, still has some pop and plays great defensive 3b.

He's still easily a top 10 MLB third baseman.
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While we can all wish for MB to play 1B, the chances of him getting anything more than a spot start once a week are slim and none.

There is nothing in Dusty's makeup that suggests anything other than Abreu in the 4 hole on a regular basis. Like it or not that's not how he manages vets.
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tjack16 said:

I think the Abreu situation could easily be helped if he just hit in the bottom three of the lineup

Until Altuve comes back, I'd go

1. Dubon
2. Tucker
3. Pena
4. Alvarez
5. Bregman
6. Brantley
7. McCormick/Meyers
8. Abreu
9. Maldonado/Diaz


Love this lineup. I'd moved Brantley to #5 though!
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It's still odd that Abreu has had like what 1 day off so far.

For some a manager who gives guys days off for running the bases a lot I absolutely did not expect him to play this much.

I'd imagine as soon as he breaks out and has a 4-4 game with a HR and a couple RBIs he'll earn himself an off-day.
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So pretty much we are assured he plays out the string.
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Worst hitters in MLB by wRC+ (min. 130 PA)

Jose Abreu, 48 wRC+
Elvis Andrus, 54
George Springer, 63
Jurickson Profar, 64
Jose Miranda, 65
Ryan McMahon, 68
Nolan Arenado, 78
Spencer Torkelson, 70
Andres Gimenez, 74
Jeimer Candelario, 75

Profar was a name thrown around to join the astros at one point
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Fair enough. By that criteria, I'd say Springer and Arenado are in strong contention, but Abreu is firmly in the lead for HDLVP award....
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Abreu and Breggs are both the unexpected problems

Tucker and Alvarez are elite and show it

Pena is doing about what I expected, which is a good thing. He's going to keep getting better.

Diaz not getting playing time is ridiculous, but maybe not surprising. F'in Dusty.

Dubon has surprised us (very positively) by hitting the same BA as Altuve, but what he doesn't have is the power to make some of them homers. We are missing the long ball impact a lot.

Jake has filled in admirably at CF, though not quite as consistent as Brantly was. Still, not a huge production difference.

Brown has replaced JV quite well so far. The issue for us with pitching is suddenly our same pen doesn't close it as well, and now we have too many injured starters.

This team can still make a run - but it needs to find it's mojo and I feel like that starts with the bats. Mainly getting Tuve back, playing Diaz more, and Breggman and Abreu better go on a pilgrimage and find themselves or something.
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According to spotrac, Bregman is the 7th highest paid 3B, this year, at $20m AAV.

Currently, among 3rd basemen, he sits at:

20th wRC+
21st OPS
17th RBI
25th Slugging
17th WAR

Walks (2nd) and Runs (8th) is all he is giving us. It's not nothing, but it's also not good enough. I look forward to when he starts driving the ball more.

Yes, he also plays great defense.
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Astros twitter kills me sometimes. This is one of the worst takes I've seen. The SEC is a damn good college baseball conference... it is nowhere close to the talent level of AA. Wow.
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Just looked at May #s only. Yainer Diaz is second on the team with a 94 wRC+. Yordan is at 150. Most the team is low but there is a special spot for Bregman 2, Julks -29, and Hensley -48.
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Seeing Gilbert face off with Paul Skenes in a couple years is gonna be something...
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Reminder of how good Altuve was a year ago.
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Also, the A's are about 11% of our remaining schedule. Good omen, hopefully.
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linkdude said:

Also, the A's are about 11% of our remaining schedule. Good omen, hopefully.


Watch Kemp and Aledmys Diaz become Astro killers those games.
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linkdude said:

Also, the A's are about 11% of our remaining schedule. Good omen, hopefully.
Have you seen us play crappy teams
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Mr President Elect said:

linkdude said:

Also, the A's are about 11% of our remaining schedule. Good omen, hopefully.
Have you seen us play crappy teams
Yeah but that was when we were "good." Now we suck so maybe we start to beat the crappy teams?
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Chas reinstated and Bannon optioned.
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spadilly said:

linkdude said:

Also, the A's are about 11% of our remaining schedule. Good omen, hopefully.


Watch Kemp and Aledmys Daz become Astro killers those games.


Well Kemp already has a history of that so bank on it
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Is this Hensley's last stand or are Meyers/Julks the threatened party? Or Salazar (not likely, but this would be fine, IMO)
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I have a confession to make. I've bet on the stros I think seven times so far this season including last night and we've lost every one. I will stop now. Let the winning commence.
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Ags #1
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Lol at playing Hensley. Thanks dusty
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spadilly said:

linkdude said:

Also, the A's are about 11% of our remaining schedule. Good omen, hopefully.


Watch Kemp and Aledmys Diaz become Astro killers those games.
Is Jed Lowrie currently playing for the A's or Astros?
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Second paragraph, sweet Jesus!
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Who would have ever thought we'd be desperate to get Chas back?

On another note WTF is Salazar doing on the roster?
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Pain.

Mathguy64
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"Strained a groin". Yeah not quite. More like tag in the bag.
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