***Official Houston Astros 2021 Season Thread***

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Yeah the last two games I've been to were tonight and Tuesday against LA. Both were bullpen implosions and the 11th inning in person tonight was like a slow death
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Marvin said:

15 LOB tonight.


MLB app said 22 LOB tonight - 12 of which were from Altuve, Bregman, and Yuli. Those three combined went 1-16 tonight.
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tjack16 said:

Yeah the last two games I've been to were tonight and Tuesday against LA. Both were bullpen implosions and the 11th inning in person tonight was like a slow death


For sure. Those games suck.
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Think I need a break from the Astros. It's not been fun lately.
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I'm showing 15 LOB and 0-10 RISP in the app. Either way <not great Bob.gif>
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PSully97 said:

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Raley is not mediocre. He's done a decent job outside of a few outings.
I wish he were mediocre. We could use some mediocre relievers.

Can't believe people are defending Raley. I know he's an Ag, but he's not good.


He's the guy you want as a lefty specialist and about the 5th/6th best arm in a bullpen. We're using him in high leverage vs a bunch of righties. His stuff plays well enough and gets a bunch of Ks. He good enough to be a regular in big league bullpen.
I disagree. He's got a career ERA just under 7. What am I missing?


He's not being used in a role that he'll succeed in. You're also including stats from 7-8 years ago that aren't relevant to who he is now.

Take 2020. 17 appearances as an Astro. 13 appearances with 0 ER. Opp OPS of ~.559. >12 K per 9.

He started off way too inconsistent this year. From April 27 on (before tonight) he played 13 games. 0 ER in 10 of them. Opp OPS of sub .500. >14k per 9.

One common thing both seasons is the K rate. It's outstanding. What else is get is that he rarely gets hit hard. 100% in hard hit rate. Average exit velo at 81 both seasons.
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Beat40 said:

tjack16 said:

Yeah the last two games I've been to were tonight and Tuesday against LA. Both were bullpen implosions and the 11th inning in person tonight was like a slow death


For sure. Those games suck.


I also think we got a preview of the 2021 World Series this week. Us against one of those two teams. The bullpen needs some major overhauling though to make that a reality. I am happy the offense fought back to tie it. I had 100% faith we would see a Correa or Yuli walk off homerun in that 10th inning
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Frok said:

Think I need a break from the Astros. It's not been fun lately.
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One positive from tonight was McCormick and the bottom of the lineup doing well. They Got on base 7 times and in key situations

On a night where Altuve, Diaz and Bregman went hitless ... the bottom order guys stepped up
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I have to keep reminding myself that it is still May. This bullpen is an unmitigated disaster right now. It's compounded when our star defenders make bad plays and we are in the top 4 teams for LOB.
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Just watched Dusty's presser. They asked about his confidence in Joe Smith tomorrow. He said something about Smith's breaking stuff isn't breaking and that's a question he doesn't feel like answering right now.

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I think we're screwed
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So let's say the Astros make a big trade again like we did in 17 and 19 at the deadline. Who would you go after that you believe we can get? And what are you willing to give up?

If Syndergaard didn't just get injured that's who I would have gone after.
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Just a thought, crazy as it is, regarding the garbage extra innings rule hangover from covid.

Once you know you're jammed up like we got tonight, just say, "yep that's it we'll see ya tomorrow."

I'm talking something as absurd as once you're down 3-4 runs, knowing your bullpen is as gassed as ours, just say f*it. We gotta go rest and get ready for tomorrow.

Let teams start doing the analytics on the various scenarios, start conceding games, and that would be the end of this. Because MLB knows the fans wouldn't have it.

Of course it would never happen, but just the thought of it is as absurd as the new rule. And just as big of an insult to the game.

Then again, if MLB keeps it up, the numbers will start getting crunched...

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Hader. No idea what it would cost.
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I don't think we have the capital to get what we need without giving up someone like Leon, and that's not worth it, IMO.

As it stands (again, IMO) we are a stud starting pitcher and a couple of solid bullpen arms away from being a legitimate contender. I think we could overcome the outfield situation especially if Tucker moved to CF For the playoffs like George used to. Obviously for that to happen he'd have to play there at least some during the regular season.

I don't think it's worth giving up the precious few talented MiLB guys we do have. Best option for this team is to hope that Framber, Odorizzi & urquidy are guys who by the end of the season can carry the load. ZG might still have a little magic left, but he's not a staff Ace anymore.

There's a lot of baseball to be played and by the deadline we could look like a team that is only one or two bullpen guys away... or it could go the other direction and like my man Dusty I don't really want to talk about that.
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Just think...if we had a time machine, we could have Josh Hader, AJ Hinch, Jeff Lunhow, no cheating accusations, and we wouldn't know who in the hell Mike Fiers or Carlos Gomez were. Worst trade in the history of the Astros, easily.
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What about trading for a guy like Mike Fiers

He helped us tremendously in a similar situation in 2017
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I say this through gritted teeth but Fiers held the rotation together in 2017 when everyone else was injured.

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tjack16
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Framber looking solid tonight and Javier throwing well out of the pen was really good. If those two can keep it up then that'll help ALOT. Especially when Framber gets off the <80 pitch count limit
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Harry Dunne said:

I say this through gritted teeth but Fiers held the rotation together in 2017 when everyone else was injured.




Yep. And he was super happy to get that ring and be at the parade
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tjack16 said:

Harry Dunne said:

I say this through gritted teeth but Fiers held the rotation together in 2017 when everyone else was injured.




Yep. And he was super happy to get that ring and be at the parade
obviously F him, but facts are facts.

Most of you guys were way ahead of the curve and hated him before he ratted us out. I defended him prior to that for his contributions in 2017 and because I thought he was a pretty good, if not inconsistent pitcher.

It's too bad he sold out his/our legacy, and all for what? If he would have just kept his mouth shut the years would have healed his butthurt over being left off the roster and he would eventually be a Houston hero that could have done whatever he wanted in this city. Now no matter what he goes on to do he will just be known as the Stro Rat.
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It's a new day. It's time to put last night behind us.

That being said, Chas needs more playing time. With Brantley on the DL, it's his opportunity to prove he deserves to start in the OF. He hit that HR last night, then missed a GS by just a couple inches.

The bullpen needs a lot of work. Something will need to be done. Hopefully, Click can find someone on the scrap heap to turn into a gem. Hell, Luhnow traded for Liariano, and he helped as a situational lefty. I think a minor nice is needed and players need to get healthy. We need Baez. We need starters back to push Javier and Lu-Ace Garcia back to the bullpen.

Regarding Raley, he hasn't been great, but he hasn't been terrible. The Padres made weak contact against him last night. They had two bloops off of him and scored two runs. The one by Kim was a duck snort that he basically hit of the handles that snuck inside the line in right. Raley is just being used in high leverage because Dusty had no one else.

Bottom line, it's a long season. It's not even June yet. We are in the thick of it and just need to stay close to the A's until we get healthy.
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A dose of tough love. I get it needs to happen but I'm surprised they chose to do it now vs when Taylor comes back.
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Whoa good for Chas
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
EastCoastAgNc
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This thing with yordan is going on for too long, either put him on the IL or play him.
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Keep waiting.
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Farmer1906
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bearkatag15 said:



Whoa good for Chas


Maybe but bad for us.

How hard is it to put your best available players in the front of the order?

Altuve
Bregman
TED
Gurriel
Correa
Diaz
Chas
Straw
Stubbs

How hard was that?
EastCoastAgNc
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Sounds like tommy John may be coming
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EastCoastAgNc
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I think dusty has a cork board in his office. He writes players names on darts and then throws them at the board. Whatever order they end up in, that's the lineup.
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