Honestly surprised the NYY plus .09 runs is that low. Hell, 2 outs, 2 runners on, 0-0 a strike called a ball, 2-0 a strike called a ball. That 3-0 when should have been 1-2 was worth more than .09 runs
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This are fans from a team in a city that is planning on spending billions on a giant, Amsterdam-like dike wall to protect themselves from the coming climate change flooding in 10 years.
That guys metrics are off. Case in point. Odor walked on 4 pitches and loaded the bases for LeMahieu to hit the 65 foot dribbler that we little leagued for 3 runs. Except 2 of the 4 pitches were 100% in the zone for obvious strikes and he missed them both. 2-2 is very different than 4-0.
That ump totally changed the game last night. Not saying we would have won but he changed the game completely. He was brutally bad.
That ump totally changed the game last night. Not saying we would have won but he changed the game completely. He was brutally bad.
If their players would only hit trash cans instead of their wives I would actually listen to what any of them had to saybearkatag15 said:“We’re heroes of the people.”
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The Astros finally visited the Bronx. Scenes from last night:https://t.co/T2xmID3shw pic.twitter.com/gg62c9xHE1
Holy **** look at these booger eaters
I mean I get it....but we didn't exactly abandon the Astros when they signed Osuna.
If they don't acknowledge their sign stealing then we don't have to acknowledge Osuna
No, but a lot of us hated that deal. It made baseball sense to trade away a broken closer for a good closer, but he's not a guy I rooted for.htxag09 said:
I mean I get it....but we didn't exactly abandon the Astros when they signed Osuna.
Mathguy64 said:
That guys metrics are off. Case in point. Odor walked on 4 pitches and loaded the bases for LeMahieu to hit the 65 foot dribbler that we little leagued for 3 runs. Except 2 of the 4 pitches were 100% in the zone for obvious strikes and he missed them both. 2-2 is very different than 4-0.
That ump totally changed the game last night. Not saying we would have won but he changed the game completely. He was brutally bad.
100%
Should have been 2-2 with 2 outs to Odor and instead it's a 4 pitch walk. At 2-2 you're almost certainly getting Odor to chase something out of the zone and end the inning tied at 3.
Astros still may have taken the L but they absolutely weren't giving up the lead that inning.
And yankees fans are garbage. They're the tea-sips of MLB. Arrogance and delusion which can only come from being protected by the respective governing entities.
Even worse is it would've been 1-2. Pitch 1 was a strike, 2 a ball, 3 a strike.
Farmer1906 said:No, but a lot of us hated that deal. It made baseball sense to trade away a broken closer for a good closer, but he's not a guy I rooted for.htxag09 said:
I mean I get it....but we didn't exactly abandon the Astros when they signed Osuna.
Given the way the guys like Verlander and McCullers accepted him after meeting with him and discussing it with Osuna along with the dropping of charges we probably rationalize that as maybe he didn't actually assault her. I'm not naive to these situations but the fact that there's no physical evidence and charges were dropped would be in his favor.
htxag09 said:
Even worse is it would've been 1-2. Pitch 1 was a strike, 2 a ball, 3 a strike.
Excellent point- especially since at 1-2 Odor is most likely chasing on a 2-strike count.
Accept or suck it up and not make a public stink about it because they had a job to do? You ever seen any of them buddy buddy together? Posing for pics at events together? I didn't, but I could have missed them.TarponChaser said:Farmer1906 said:No, but a lot of us hated that deal. It made baseball sense to trade away a broken closer for a good closer, but he's not a guy I rooted for.htxag09 said:
I mean I get it....but we didn't exactly abandon the Astros when they signed Osuna.
Given the way the guys like Verlander and McCullers accepted him after meeting with him and discussing it with Osuna along with the dropping of charges we probably rationalize that as maybe he didn't actually assault her. I'm not naive to these situations but the fact that there's no physical evidence and charges were dropped would be in his favor.
tjack16 said:
Oh it'll happen when and if Mike Fiers pitches at MMP
As long as he's on the As, he will never pitch in MMP. He may never pitch against the Astros.
Fair points.Farmer1906 said:Accept or suck it up and not make a public stink about it because they had a job to do? You ever seen any of them buddy buddy together? Posing for pics at events together? I didn't, but I could have missed them.TarponChaser said:Farmer1906 said:No, but a lot of us hated that deal. It made baseball sense to trade away a broken closer for a good closer, but he's not a guy I rooted for.htxag09 said:
I mean I get it....but we didn't exactly abandon the Astros when they signed Osuna.
Given the way the guys like Verlander and McCullers accepted him after meeting with him and discussing it with Osuna along with the dropping of charges we probably rationalize that as maybe he didn't actually assault her. I'm not naive to these situations but the fact that there's no physical evidence and charges were dropped would be in his favor.
But, I also think that the justice system generally works. MLB suspended him as is its right but nothing was ever proven and nor was the extent of the allegations really released. There have been plenty of cases where guys have been arrested and charged over nothing but yelling and those charges later dropped.
I don't say this to defend Osuna at all but I also have a very deep seated dislike for attempting to ruin somebody over something which can't really be proven or is a fabrication. To wit, Duke Lacrosse & UVA fraternity scandals which were complete and total lies yet the lives of people were completely ruined.
I fully agree on all points. It's also nave to think that these millionaire baseball players don't have the resources to quiet victims. I mean charges were dropped because should wouldn't travel to the US from Canada, not because they looked at evidence and found it unsubstantial.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have signed him, he should have been banned from the league, or we should have boycotted the Astros. Simply stating it's a little hypocritical to jump all over the Yankees for this. Plenty of other reasons.
I'm not saying we shouldn't have signed him, he should have been banned from the league, or we should have boycotted the Astros. Simply stating it's a little hypocritical to jump all over the Yankees for this. Plenty of other reasons.
Have we heard anything about Maldy? Or even Odor? That was a nasty collision
Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Have we heard anything about Maldy? Or even Odor? That was a nasty collision
Maldy is day to day with trap discomfort. He posted on Twitter that he's feeling much better.
Should we expect a Jake type suspension for Odor?Farmer1906 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Have we heard anything about Maldy? Or even Odor? That was a nasty collision
Maldy is day to day with trap discomfort. He posted on Twitter that he's feeling much better.
n_touch said:Should we expect a Jake type suspension for Odor?Farmer1906 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Have we heard anything about Maldy? Or even Odor? That was a nasty collision
Maldy is day to day with trap discomfort. He posted on Twitter that he's feeling much better.
Hahahaha good one.
I'm with you. It's BS to just believe all accusers without investigation. But it seems like the fact he accepted the 75 game suspension without appeal and that it was dropped because his baby momma wouldn't come to Canada to testify it not hard to connect the dots that he likely did it.
n_touch said:Should we expect a Jake type suspension for Odor?Farmer1906 said:Lonestar_Ag09 said:
Have we heard anything about Maldy? Or even Odor? That was a nasty collision
Maldy is day to day with trap discomfort. He posted on Twitter that he's feeling much better.
Suspending Odor would make the Yankees better. So I think MLB should require NYY to make him hit leadoff as a punishment
This was posted on another Astros thread on another website:Bregxit said:Umpire: Jose Navas
— Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) May 5, 2021
Final: Yankees 7, Astros 3#SquadUp // #ForTheH#NYYvsHOU // #HOUvsNYY pic.twitter.com/8SCkZHKiTG
Jose Navas has been the HP Ump in 3 games for Houston. So we're 0-3 in games he's called this year with his calls favoring the opponent between .7 and .8 runs per game.
“At no point in 2017 did I think the Yankees were better than the Astros, and at no point did I think the Astros were the only team doing something potentially egregious.” pic.twitter.com/SM0szdjhAW
— The Astros Locker (@TheAstrosLocker) May 5, 2021
some good comments in these 2 clips.
Mathguy64 said:
That guys metrics are off. Case in point. Odor walked on 4 pitches and loaded the bases for LeMahieu to hit the 65 foot dribbler that we little leagued for 3 runs. Except 2 of the 4 pitches were 100% in the zone for obvious strikes and he missed them both. 2-2 is very different than 4-0.
That ump totally changed the game last night. Not saying we would have won but he changed the game completely. He was brutally bad.
I don't think his metrics are taking what happened after the fact into account
It's adjusting for the generalized out come change that occurs on a missed strike call, not the reality of what resulted
Too bad him or any of the others who do talk about it will never result in other teams getting slammed the way we were
Because guys like Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drelich aren't concerned with that. In the original article they even mentioned other teams doing similar things, but most of the other teams were East and West coast teams - a lot of where their money comes from. Also, the Astros "cheated" the Dodgers out of a WS, which is a much bigger story to sell. They want the clicks, not necessarily baseball justice for all.bluefire579 said:
Too bad him or any of the others who do talk about it will never result in other teams getting slammed the way we were
On top of that, Manfred didn't want to make it look like a league wide issue since he issued a league notice in the middle of 2017 resulting from the Red Sox and Yankees and investigating them again would make him look weak as they would be defying him. So he opened an investigation into only the Astros. It wasn't until all of the player interviews and how involved Cora was that he was forced to open an investigation into the Red Sox. Logan Morrison was on record listing teams he knew of doing similar things and no one in the league looked into it.
Manfred knew that if he released the punishment for the Astros while the Red Sox investigation was on going that any cooperation from the Red Sox players was out the window at that point.
It's clear to me the intention was to hang all of this around one team, and while unfair, is just something to live with. MLB has a long history of going the route of trying to contain rather than actually trying to fix an issue.
Honestly, Joe Kelly's reaction that he was more mad that the Astros snitched than being caught cheating tells me all I need to know about how league wide it was.
Beat40 said:Because guys like Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drelich aren't concerned with that. In the original article they even mentioned other teams doing similar things, but most of the other teams were East and West coast teams - a lot of where their money comes from. Also, the Astros "cheated" the Dodgers out of a WS, which is a much bigger story to sell. They want the clicks, not necessarily baseball justice for all.bluefire579 said:
Too bad him or any of the others who do talk about it will never result in other teams getting slammed the way we were
On top of that, Manfred didn't want to make it look like a league wide issue since he issued a league notice in the middle of 2017 resulting from the Red Sox and Yankees and investigating them again would make him look weak as they would be defying him. So he opened an investigation into only the Astros. It wasn't until all of the player interviews and how involved Cora was that he was forced to open an investigation into the Red Sox. Logan Morrison was on record listing teams he knew of doing similar things and no one in the league looked into it.
Manfred knew that if he released the punishment for the Astros while the Red Sox investigation was on going that any cooperation from the Red Sox players was out the window at that point.
It's clear to me the intention was to hang all of this around one team, and while unfair, is just something to live with. MLB has a long history of going the route of trying to contain rather than actually trying to fix an issue.
Honestly, Joe Kelly's reaction that he was more mad that the Astros snitched than being caught cheating tells me all I need to know about how league wide it was.
Facts.
And piss on anybody who thinks there is or should be an asterisk on 2017.
Good stuff.
I'd also like to point out that De Rosa's wife is a former model and still smoke, even after popping out a couple sex trophies.
https://instagr.am/p/B46E0DyFXxc
I'd also like to point out that De Rosa's wife is a former model and still smoke, even after popping out a couple sex trophies.
https://instagr.am/p/B46E0DyFXxc
Odor got put on the 10 day IL. Sounds like he may have gotten the worse end of the collision
A 29-year-old right-hander and former second-round draft pick named Ryan Eades is joining Triple-A Sugar Land on a minor league deal with the Astros. He appeared briefly in the majors in 2019 with the Twins and Orioles.
— Jake Kaplan (@jakemkaplan) May 5, 2021
The Astros against Jordan Montgomery: Altuve 4, Brantley 7, Bregman 5, Alvarez DH, Correa 6, Gurriel 3, Díaz 9, Straw 8, Castro 2
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) May 5, 2021
Garcia RHP
Smart to get Diaz into the lineup and a lefty out.
I wonder if we see anyone sit for tomorrow's day game after the night game. We may get a volunteer or two to avoid having to see Cole and deal with Yankee fan cursing them out.
I wonder if we see anyone sit for tomorrow's day game after the night game. We may get a volunteer or two to avoid having to see Cole and deal with Yankee fan cursing them out.
With lefty Jordan Montgomery pitching tonight for the Yankees, the right-handed-hitting Díaz is playing over the left-handed-hitting Kyle Tucker, who’s batting .183/.241/.356 in 117 plate appearances this season.
— Jake Kaplan (@jakemkaplan) May 5, 2021
If he's ever going to play RF, Yankee stadium is the perfect place to do it
Damn that slash line for Tucker is worse than I thought.
Ag_07 said:
Damn that slash line for Tucker is worse than I thought.
But his xBA is really high.
Good Poster
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