***Official Houston Astros 2021 Season Thread***

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The Milkman
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I really don't get it at all. If he want to extend him that badly (which also doesn't make sense), why do it now? Why not wait through the year and then decide. Its not like hes going to be a hot commodity.
Lonestar_Ag09
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Maybe trying to get as much as possible settled before hand so they know exactly what they can try and max out for Carlos next year as well as maybe be able to low price extend JV
EastCoastAgNc
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Offensive woes aside, he's been a lifesaver for the young pitching staff. Strom is likely gonna retire after this year, so this provides some continuity for the young guys.
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MaxPower said:

bearkatag15 said:




Ug I hate it. Would rather wait to see if a catcher who can hit becomes available in free agency. D'Arnaud is a free agent. Barnhart could be and is better offensively and defensively.


Someone posted a fangraphs chat (probably Farmer) with a former Astro FO guy and IIRC he said we simply value defense and ability to call games/work a staff way above offensive production.

And I agree with it. There just aren't good, solid catchers who are also productive at the plate anymore.

I think it's because with all the data and analytics and knowing all that stuff for an entire staff catchers just don't have the time to put in to being offensively productive.

So the thought is even if you do sign a good offensive catcher can he maintain that after he gets here and has all the work to do in knowing his staff. Chances are probably not.
MaxPower
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Click was in the Rays FO when they had d'Arnaud, who can actually hit. Barnhart is also known as a defensive wizz and isn't worthless offensively. Why not see if you can sign one of them in the offseason? If you "miss out" on Martin then who cares.
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I bet if we lost Maldanado, he'd go to the Yankees to catch Cole (they have a good relationship). I'd much rather face them with a catcher who strikes out a lot and can't defend his position / call a game to save his life over facing a good game caller / defender who can occasionally hit.
MaxPower
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Who are you describing in those scenarios? I'd much rather take the guaranteed out with Martin in the Yankees lineup.
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MaxPower said:

Who are you describing in those scenarios? I'd much rather take the guaranteed out with Martin in the Yankees lineup.
Gary Sanchez vs Maldanado.

Gary Sanchez:
- can't defend home plate
- lots of pass balls
- strikes out a lot
- can't catch anyone stealing
- Cole basically fired him last year for his terrible game calling

Maldanado:
- defends home plate
- minimal pass balls
- strikes out a lot
- cannon for an arm to catch base runners
- good at calling a game

Add to that the fact that the Yankees now have a guy on their team who knows our entire pitching staff inside and out and all their tendencies / weaknesses. Still want Maldanado over Sanchez? I think you're blinded by the offensive aspect of it.
redline248
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idk, at some point the lack of production as a hitter has to matter. I'm not saying Maldonado has reached that point yet, but we can't continue with him being an auto out. He has the 2nd most ABs of all catchers in the league and has been on base, what, 4 times?
Ag_07
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I'd take Maldy over Sanchez every day and twice on Sundays.
MaxPower
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Why is it Martin vs Sanchez anyway? The Yanks could just as easily sign D'Arnaud or Barnhart (just as we could). I'd prefer they signed Martin so they don't wind up with one of those guys.
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I like the Maldy extension. Got two veteran catchers signed through next year who command respect from the veteran pitchers and can help guide the young ones.
tjack16
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Good to be back
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https://instagr.am/p/CNnPmn0pGYn

Great video
BCSGrubber
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tjack16 said:

Good to be back



How are your jeans?
tjack16
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Retired them. 2 game losing streak against A's when wearing the ripped jeans.

It was time
Deluxe
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The good news is that it was probly easy to turn them into a fashionable pair of jorts though
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all right, let's try this again vs. the Tigers
bearkatag15
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Blum and Kalas talking about Odorizzi's pitches while showing highlights of Tyler White striking out over and over and over again....
Deluxe
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That pregame montage of Odo striking out Astros in 2019 featured Tyler White like 5 times

EDIT: lol Bearkat beat me to it
Deluxe
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Man I'm glad we signed Odo
Farmer1906
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You must have had a perfect view of Bregman catching that foul ball.
Farmer1906
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Ring his ass up
bearkatag15
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this is a very tight zone...
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Odorizzi looks good
cap-n-jack
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Jake asking just where in the hell were those two pitches.
Charlie Conway
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Farmer1906 said:

You must have had a perfect view of Bregman catching that foul ball.
You could see his ripped jeans on the tv
Farmer1906
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Blunmer just jinxed Boyd.
AgDoc03
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Anyone else feel like we lead the league in 2 out singles with no one on base?
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EastCoastAgNc
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We're making the Tigers pitchers look like superstars.
Texaggie7nine
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tjack16 said:

Good to be back



White, black or grey hat? ;-)
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Texaggie7nine said:

tjack16 said:

Good to be back



White, black or grey hat? ;-)



W
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Yordan will take that
W
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and Yuli will take that one
Texaggie7nine
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Bunt?
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