****2020 Official Houston Astros We Don't Have To Cheat To Beat You Season Thread****

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they are building around a 38 year old lance lynn in 2025
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Stark or the Rangers or both are way, way over-valuing Gallo.

every team already has a mega-one-true-outcome guy
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Nuke LaLoosh said:

Fisher will always have a special place in my heart


Trying to remember his most memorable Astros moment...
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Deluxe said:

Nuke LaLoosh said:

Fisher will always have a special place in my heart


Trying to remember his most memorable Astros moment...

Well his most memorable Blue Jay moment so far is taking a pop-up off his schnozz..
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tjack16 said:

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This seems like a strange asking price for Gallo... if you are wanting to rebuild they should be targeting prospects. not current big leaguers
If I was the rangers I'd go outfield and pitching prospects. Then find a way to sneak Odor onto the plane with him as a "if you order now you also get______" deal



I'd consider throwing someone else in just to avoid having to take Odor
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3 vs Rangers (4th AL West)
4 @ Angels (5th AL West)
4 (5?) @ A's (1st AL West)
2 @ Dodgers (1st NL West)
3 vs Rangers (4th AL West)
3 vs Dbacks (5th NL West)
3 @ Mariners (3rd AL West)
4 @ Rangers (4th AL West)

27 games left. 20 vs teams under .500, and 4-5 big games vs the A's.
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Deluxe said:

Quick flashback to the 2019 trade deadline and Jomboy's reaction when we got Greinke.



Man, I still love this video. The absolute crushing devastation of these two is just fantastic.
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Day isn't over yet...
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bearkatag15 said:



Day isn't over yet...
I don't get that one. Was he a starter for the Dodgers or a reliever? Why would they be selling off pieces?
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Can we flash back to a time when you didnt have as much info out there, and we stole randy Johnson out of nowhere? That was amazing
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TarponChaser said:

Deluxe said:

Quick flashback to the 2019 trade deadline and Jomboy's reaction when we got Greinke.



Man, I still love this video. The absolute crushing devastation of these two is just fantastic.


I was actually at Yankee Stadium the day before the deadline last year. We took a trip up to New York and they were playing the Diamondbacks I was sitting next to some Yankees fans who were convinced they were going to make a blockbuster trade for a starting pitcher and the Astros weren't gonna do anything. I think they brought up Synndergard for the yankees. Next day Zack was traded mid game and the Yankees did nothing
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EastCoastAgNc said:




Go 15-5 vs the bums then we'd only need to go 4-3 vs the rest to end up with a record of 38-22. It might be enough to win the division. As on pace to win 40, but they could slow down. They only have 10 games left bs "sellers" (Sea & Tex).
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EastCoastAgNc said:

bearkatag15 said:



Day isn't over yet...
I don't get that one. Was he a starter for the Dodgers or a reliever? Why would they be selling off pieces?


Wasn't he included in the Angels off season trade that fell through?
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EastCoastAgNc said:

bearkatag15 said:



Day isn't over yet...
I don't get that one. Was he a starter for the Dodgers or a reliever? Why would they be selling off pieces?
The Dodgers have been willing to sell off excess pieces to keep the farm strong (see Puig and Wood to the Reds). It's something I wish we would do. There's a reason their farm is still top 5 while ours is bottom 5.
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I'm okay with us doing nothing. The playoffs are a lock, and giving away anything to potentially lose an absolute crapshoot of a 3 game series would have been dumb.

I hate what MLB did to this season.
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The rangers not trading Lynn is hilarious
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EastCoastAgNc said:


yes indeed.

a bunch of players have a great chance to get their season numbers straightened out (Springer, Altuve)...or taken to the next level (Tucker, Correa, Yuli). And Reddick is somewhere in the middle
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W said:

the Padres haven't made the playoffs since 2006.

haven't won a playoff series since their mega-roid-fueled 1998 team


It still hurts
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Johnsy3 said:

W said:

the Padres haven't made the playoffs since 2006.

haven't won a playoff series since their mega-roid-fueled 1998 team


It still hurts

I still blame MLB and TV for rigging the game days to where Kevin Brown could pitch Game 1 and Game 3
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Freaking Jim leyritz
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Cole sucks now.
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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Just gave up another homerun
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bearkatag15 said:



Cole sucks now.

He sucked at the start of last year, too. I clowned him.

Then he started dominating...so we'll just need to wait and see if he can adjust.

definitely not worth that mega contract though
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old ag 2003 said:

Just gave up another homerun


Thanks for the heads up

Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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The Strommy effect
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bearkatag15 said:



The Strommy effect

It's the pine tar - Jomboy probably

Yep. Been telling yall - Bauer definitely
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A pitcher motivated to get a $300mm contract > a pitcher who just got a $300mm contract
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Not sure if this has been reported or talked about but I know someone who went to dinner with their relative who has been throwing with Verlander every day for a week and a half and he "looks really good"
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AggiEE said:

bearkatag15 said:



Cole sucks now.

He sucked at the start of last year, too. I clowned him.

Then he started dominating...so we'll just need to wait and see if he can adjust.

definitely not worth that mega contract though
He wasn't as good as his finish, obviously, but he did run into some bad luck.

First 12 starts
4.11 ERA
3.12 FIP
2.55 xFIP

You can see he was going to regress to the mean (put up better #s)

This year is a little different. His ERA is similar to his FIP/xFIP.

3.51 ERA
4.38 FIP
3.41 xFIP

It may look even worse after today.

Something is happening to cause him to be hit harder and higher.

2019 -> 2020
Exit Velo: 87.6 -> 90.6 (highest of his career)
Launch Angle: 14.0 -> 17.5 (highest of his career)
Barrel %: 5.7% -> 11.1% (again highest of his career)

His vertical movement is slightly down across the board (not much tho) & velo too (again barely). Which makes sense because his spin is down too.

Looking at some of the visuals, he's throwing his breaking pitches outside and farther from the strike zone.

He's eliminated his sinker, but that was his worst pitch so it shouldn't be hurting him.

I fully expected to see something just out when reviewing him more closely, but I'm not seeing it. He's just getting roughed up. Maybe he's tipping? Did Maldonado make that much of a difference compared to Gary (I assume that's his catcher).

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Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

bearkatag15 said:



Cole sucks now.

He sucked at the start of last year, too. I clowned him.

Then he started dominating...so we'll just need to wait and see if he can adjust.

definitely not worth that mega contract though
He wasn't as good as his finish, obviously, but he did run into some bad luck.

First 12 starts
4.11 ERA
3.12 FIP
2.55 xFIP

You can see he was going to regress to the mean (put up better #s)

This year is a little different. His ERA is similar to his FIP/xFIP.

3.51 ERA
4.38 FIP
3.41 xFIP

It may look even worse after today.

Something is happening to cause him to be hit harder and higher.

2019 -> 2020
Exit Velo: 87.6 -> 90.6 (highest of his career)
Launch Angle: 14.0 -> 17.5 (highest of his career)
Barrel %: 5.7% -> 11.1% (again highest of his career)

His vertical movement is slightly down across the board (not much tho) & velo too (again barely). Which makes sense because his spin is down too.

Looking at some of the visuals, he's throwing his breaking pitches outside and farther from the strike zone.

He's eliminated his sinker, but that was his worst pitch so it shouldn't be hurting him.

I fully expected to see something just out when reviewing him more closely, but I'm not seeing it. He's just getting roughed up. Maybe he's tipping? Did Maldonado make that much of a difference compared to Gary (I assume that's his catcher).





Here's a list of what I've noticed is wrong with Cole.

1. No Strom
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I try not to be that obvious.
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They are a classy bunch...
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regarding the Dodgers...

they are not in payroll prison yet, but eventually the Mookie extension is going to come into play.

in a couple of years...Mookie + Kershaw + Bellinger will equal $100 MM.

Price & Jansen make a combined $32 MM in 2021. And Seager is a free agent after 2021. Eventually Buehler too
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