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Kaplan: Given how many pitcher injuries the Astros have dealt with early in 2020, they need Greinke more than ever right now. In 12 regular-season starts with the team dating to last August, he has a 3.27 ERA and a 1.060 WHIP in 71 2/3 innings. He wasn't sharp for much of the 2019 postseason, but he pitched the Astros to a win in Game 3 of the World Series and would've been the winning pitcher in Game 7 had their hitters capitalized on their scoring opportunities against Max Scherzer.
If the Astros won Game 7 against the Nationals, this trade would be unimpeachable, right? But because they didn't, its legacy likely will hinge on the successes or failures of the four young players they gave up. On the flip side, it feels like the Diamondbacks probably can only feel better about the deal now than they did a year ago, no?
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Buchanan: Well, I think that's to be determined still. I wrote about this in June and ultimately decided I'd rather have the prospects and Bumgarner, but you can make the argument that this Diamondbacks team, the 2020 version, would be better with Greinke on it. He is a better pitcher at 36 than Bumgarner is at 31. On top of that, those four prospects have their warts and have yet to do really anything with Arizona.
Seth Beer has yet to prove he's anything but a designated hitter, which might have increased his value this season if there weren't like five other guys ahead of him for at-bats there in the big leagues. J.B. Bukauskas might wind up a reliever and his velocity was down in summer camp. Josh Rojas was called up soon after the trade but struggled mightily at the plate and hasn't looked much better since. He was sent down to the alternate site Saturday.
There's plenty of time for those guys to come around, of course. For me, though, the key to how this deal will be viewed is Corbin Martin. He's nearly back from the Tommy John surgery he had before the trade and was the best prospect of the bunch, and he might be the guy the Diamondbacks will need the most in this shortened season, given the struggles of the rotation and the likelihood of a pitcher injury at some point. If he pitches like a No. 3 like some scouts think he can, six-plus cost-controlled seasons of that guy easily beats two pricey seasons of Greinke.
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Kaplan: I don't think it's all-or-nothing, per se, but the Astros traded for Greinke because they thought it would help them maximize their optimal contention window, which appears to be closing. Their roster in 2020 is worse than it was in 2019, namely because of the losses of Cole and reliever Will Harris, and now Verlander is hurt. George Springer, Michael Brantley and Yuli Gurriel will be free agents after this season. Having Greinke indeed figures to help the Astros remain competitive in 2021, but the 2019 season already looks like it was their last-best chance to win it all with this core.
Framber pitched before Scrubb. This rule doesn't apply to Framber.cpsencik04 said:W said:
this is from MLB's website:
A pitcher receives a win when he is the pitcher of record when his team takes the lead for good -- with a couple rare exceptions. First, a starting pitcher must pitch at least five innings (in a traditional game of nine innings or longer) to qualify for the win. If he does not, the official scorer awards the win to the most effective relief pitcher.
There is also a rarely used clause where an official scorer can deem a relief pitcher's appearance "brief and ineffective." (For example, if a reliever relinquished a one-run lead by allowing three runs, but was still in line for a win after his team scored four runs in the following inning -- that may qualify.) If that's the case, the scorer can award the win to a pitcher who followed that "brief and ineffective" pitcher. Which relief pitcher earns the win specifically is also up to the judgment of the official scorer.
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so in Sunday's game...if Scrubb had given up the tying single in the 10th and finished the 10th...the official scorer could have given Framber the win. (and Taylor would have gotten the save for holding the lead in the 11th)
that's where the free runner on second could make the official scorer do something in 2020 that he would not have done in 2019. Since it wasn't Framber's fault that the runner was on 2nd base to start the inning
Framber pitched before Scrubb
htxag09 said:
Replay and call stood.
07ag said:
i didn't like it, but i understood the 'stands' call. some pros 'catch' and transfer crazy fast
tough break for Ohtani.bearkatag15 said:
Looks like DH only this year