Apologies if I missed it but I read the release on the cheating scandal but was a bit shocked players weren't suspended if what they said is true. If this was orchestrated by certain players who are making millions why not give them some sort of consequence? Seems a bit silly to just suspend the coach and general manager. Is there a reason for this approach?

Alta said:

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Apologies if I missed it but I don't follow baseball that closely. I read the release on the cheating scandal but was a bit shocked players weren't suspended if what they said is true. If this was orchestrated by certain players who are making millions why not give them some sort of consequence? Seems a bit silly to just suspend the coach and general manager. Is there a reason for this approach?

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Manfred laid out his rationale for not punishing players in his report yesterday but it's mostly because the MLBPA wouldn't tolerate it.

Thanks - just curious. Seems very strange to me.

Also if you start diving into punishing players involved or those who participated where's the line?

You punish anyone who benefited? You do that for every team that did it?

You be looking at punishing a big chunk of players.

Danny Vermin said:

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The "title" should be stripped. It was not earned fair and square and will always have an asterisk beside it.

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Username checks out.

Danny Vermin said:

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The "title" should be stripped. It was not earned fair and square and will always have an asterisk beside it.

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LOL. Gamesmanship is not cheating.

Kashchei said:

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Danny Vermin said:

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The "title" should be stripped. It was not earned fair and square and will always have an asterisk beside it.

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Should they strip the Red Sox's 18 title? What about all the titles won during the steroid era? Vacating titles is as stupid as vacating NCs or Heisman trophies. Everyone knows who the best team was.

Reversed roles I would say the same thing if the Rangers won the WS.

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The Rangers could have the first and third-base coaches holding cue cards saying what the the next pitch coming on them is and still finish 79-83.

Danny Vermin said:

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The "title" should be stripped. It was not earned fair and square and will always have an asterisk beside it.

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Doesn't matter, had WS sex.

Danny Vermin said:

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The "title" should be stripped. It was not earned fair and square and will always have an asterisk beside it.

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LOL. Sports much?

Stripping it wouldn't do anything.
The astros could keep the banner hanging, they've already got rings.

Like Reggie Bush being stripped of the heisman, didn't erase he won the trophy.

Irish_Man said:

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Stripping it wouldn't do anything.
The astros could keep the banner hanging, they've already got rings.

Like Reggie Bush being stripped of the heisman, didn't erase he won the trophy.

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Yeah, it is irrelevant. What you instead can do is, when your buddies mention WS titles, just smirk a little, chuckle, and just say "OK. The dismissive response to boasts about cheating is the most effective.

Alta said:

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Apologies if I missed it but I don't follow baseball that closely. I read the release on the cheating scandal but was a bit shocked players weren't suspended if what they said is true. If this was orchestrated by certain players who are making millions why not give them some sort of consequence? Seems a bit silly to just suspend the coach and general manager. Is there a reason for this approach?

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Manfred's announcement in 2017 to stop using electronica for unfair advantages specifically said if a team is found to be doing it, that the manager and GM would be held accountable for it. Too difficult to assess levels of culpability to players. Some may be participating, some may be aware but silent about it, etc

The recent report states this as to why Hinch and Lunhow were suspended