*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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Teddy Perkins
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Get well soon Sparky!
spadilly
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Still has his sense of humor. Get well soon, Sparky!
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Sparky's gettin well!!!
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Indians got fleeced if this is the entire deal...
Mr.Bond
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Isn't kluber a fa in 21
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.




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Mr.Bond said:

Isn't kluber a fa in 21
No, he has a team option for 2021, FA in 22.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/texas-rangers/corey-kluber-8504/
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At first blush, I really like this move for them. Seems like someone Jeff would do. Maybe we would have been in on it if not for the payroll issue.

One minor thing to keep and eye on. His velo and spin were down the last 2 years.
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It was a desperation deal.

I don't see why they want to take on that salary for the next couple years when they won't be competitive.

Now if he had a bunch of years left and they would be retaining when they're on the uptick then I'd get it.

Just seems like a splash acquisition to give false hope. I'll allow it.
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Disagree. It's a nice buy low and they have an out next year if he doesn't meet expectations.
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Oh yeah buy low for sure and value is great.

I just think it's lip stick on a pig.
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They have the money and it's short term without costing prospect capital. Basically keeps them from being in the dump in the new stadium. Some teams actually value not being complete 2011 Astros dog****.
Farmer1906
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You could say that about them no matter who they sign. Unless they added So etching like Cole, Rendon, & Grandel they aren't really competing for much this year.
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Glad to seem him doing well. Thank God for his wife!
Gig’em Aggies!
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MadBum to the dbacks. 5 years, $85M
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EastCoastAgNc said:

MadBum to the dbacks. 5 years, $85M


Not the dodgers
titanmaster_race
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That honestly seems like a low contract
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So Zona effectively swapped Grienke for MadBum at a way lower cost and got 4 extra players in the deal. They played that very very well.
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But they are paying half of Grienke's salary, so basically a wash money wise. But did pick up 4 extra prospects.
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titanmaster_race said:

That honestly seems like a low contract


Would have done that in a heart beat
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.




Farmer1906
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Mr.Bond said:

titanmaster_race said:

That honestly seems like a low contract


Would have done that in a heart beat


Pass.

Way too many red flags.

xAVG, xSLG, & xWOBA have all been trending negatively for the last 5 years.

He doesn't have a ton of velo.
Mr.Bond
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In strom I trust
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.




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Agreed. Given his career credentials and notches on his postseason belt, it's telling that he wasn't able to land a nine figure deal in this red hot market. Like you said, advanced stats and forward looking projections don't look as strong.

Still, not bad maneuvering by the D Backs. Essentially swap out Greinke for MadBum and keep the four high level prospects.
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Bumgarner will be ages 30 thru 34 for the 5-year contract.

but he is an old 30...and of course had injury problems in 2017 & 2018.

also going from the Giants' ballpark to Chase Field is significant...in the wrong way for a pitcher
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and right off the bat...the D-Backs and Giants play 7 times in the first 2 weeks of the season
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Farmer1906 said:

Mr.Bond said:

titanmaster_race said:

That honestly seems like a low contract


Would have done that in a heart beat


Pass.

Way too many red flags.

xAVG, xSLG, & xWOBA have all been trending negatively for the last 5 years.

He doesn't have a ton of velo.


Same.
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Glad he'll be back. Need all the righty specialists for the Yankees lineup.
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4.million a year. Not bad
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.




Farmer1906
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One of the very best in baseball at getting righties out.
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That seems good
YNWA_AG
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Relievers have to pitch to 3 batters now
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I like Joe Smith a lot. Especially as the number 3 or 4 guy out of the pen.
Farmer1906
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Im aware.

He's perfect to face DJ, Torres, Judge, & Stanton.
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Farmer1906 said:

Im aware.

He's perfect to face DJ, Torres, Judge, & Stanton.


And help induce Boone to do something dumb like bat Gardner in the 3 hole to split up righties
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third coast.. said:

YNWA_AG said:

Relievers have to pitch to 3 batters now
i think this is going to REALLY REALLY change a lot of games, and i dont see it talked about much on here.


Because it hasn't been part of the Astros very often

We have never had a lefty only reliever during this run
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