Agree to strongly disagree

Interesting that both home voters split their votes

This semantic argument comes up every year, but in every sport every year the MVP goes to the games best player.

It's okay, the award is just mis-named

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Sure you can. He helped his team win more games than Bregman did for the Astros.

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And it's really the "best player" award, and Trout is a better player. He might be the best ever. With that in mind, Trout shouldn't be penalized in an individual award for being on a bad team. The only reason it was even close is because Trout got hurt.

If Bregman played better in the playoffs I'd care a lot more about him losing

AggiEE said:

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If Bregman played better in the playoffs I'd care a lot more about him losing

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It's a regular season award..... WGAF?

Mr.Bond said:

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AggiEE said:

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If Bregman played better in the playoffs I'd care a lot more about him losing

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It's a regular season award..... WGAF?

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I know it doesn't factor in to the voters decision, but if I were to award MVP and it was close I'd give the nod to the guy who rakes in the playoffs.

But Bregman was terrible and Trout is the better player despite coming up short at the end and not making the post season

AggiEE said:

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Mr.Bond said:

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AggiEE said:

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If Bregman played better in the playoffs I'd care a lot more about him losing

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It's a regular season award..... WGAF?

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I know it doesn't factor in to the voters decision, but if I were to award MVP and it was close I'd give the nod to the guy who rakes in the playoffs.

But Bregman was terrible and Trout is the better player despite coming up short at the end and not making the post season

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Then the award should be renamed.

The ballots are in before the playoffs start.

Ag_07 said:

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The ballots are in before the playoffs start.

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I know that

I'd just feel more upset if Bregman had done well, we won the WS as a result, and Trout got MVP...because I do feel the decision based on regular season performance alone is a tough one...and playoff performance is kind of a tie breaker

Obviously don't really care now that we lost and he was mostly a non factor in the playoffs

Six of seven The Athletic writers voted from Trout over Bregman. Pretty much handed it to him.

AggiEE said:

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Ag_07 said:

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The ballots are in before the playoffs start.

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I know that

I'd just feel more upset if Bregman had done well, we won the WS as a result, and Trout got MVP...because I do feel the decision based on regular season performance alone is a tough one...and playoff performance is kind of a tie breaker

Obviously don't really care now that we lost and he was mostly a non factor in the playoffs

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If we had won the WS I wouldn't care about any of the individual awards at all.

texaggierm said:

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Six of seven The Athletic writers voted from Trout over Bregman. Pretty much handed it to him.

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No surprise, they wrote a few articles about why Trout should win back in September

came here to post this. so true.

care to give some extra info.....did we cut myles or something?

I enjoy being the villain as an Astros and Myles fan. I'm twisted like that.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if MLB took a page right out of the NFL book and news dumped it's investigation results today.

Either way whether it came up with not much and we get off or if we get the book thrown at us and it looks bad on MLB it gets lost in the Myles Garrett fiasco and it's Friday.

MLB could potentially have more ball issues to deal with...

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/official-world-series-balls-sold-to-public-might-not-meet-on-field-specs-report-says/l1jkbkna9daj1shssf20fwwdy

that would actually be a great idea. The sportsworld is obsessed/enamored with the Myles story today

I heard MG is a HUGE Astros fan.....

Sports media loves a good controversy. I struggled to find many national sports shows to talk about the Astros during the playoffs. Then all these controversies happen and NOW they want to talk Astros.

this crap was all better years ago before social media and the general public was oblivious to it, and when guys got drilled in the ribs we didn't know any better

That Bleacherreport guy is an idiot. In the video he posted, Yelich gets in the box, glances to RIGHT center field and then locks in on Yu. Never once do his eyes divert to LEFT center field as alleged. This **** is getting out of control.

https://instagr.am/p/B47qwI6naVV

I've been away from home this week, mostly in places without good internet service so I'm just trying to catch up on this. I checked the Astros = cheaters thread but it's about what I expected. Could someone who is following this closely please let me know if my understanding of things so far is right?

Is Fiers the only ex-Astro to have accused them?
Is Beltran the only one who has said that it didn't happen?
Was use of electronics to steal signs just banned in 2019? In other words would it have been legal in 2017?

Finally, you other true Astros fans - does it look like the Astros have been doing something that other teams don't? Something that is likely going to get them in trouble?

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Is Fiers the only ex-Astro to have accused them? Only former player. 3 other anonymous individuals formerly in the organization (presumably staffers) also said it
Is Beltran the only one who has said that it didn't happen? To my knowledge, yes. Haven't heard anything from Hinch or Cora, or guys like Brian McCann
Was use of electronics to steal signs just banned in 2019? In other words would it have been legal in 2017? Technically, no. It's been against the rules to do stuff like putting up an extra light in the OF that turns on or off based on pitches, and I'm pretty sure it's been illegal to use a camera to watch the catcher and signal to the dugout. I read someone say that didn't include the clubhouse or tunnel areas beyond the dugout, but that seems like a stretch to say that was legal.

edit to add: in 2019 the banning of additional cameras in the outfield between the foul poles was specifically banned. Prior to that cameras were allowed, but the expectation was they wouldn't be used to steal signs.

Finally, you other true Astros fans - does it look like the Astros have been doing something that other teams don't? Something that is likely going to get them in trouble?
I don't know if they were doing things that other teams weren't, but they were apparently doing it a lot better. I can't imagine any serious penalty comes down, b/c we are really talking about a league wide issue. That is just my opinion, though.

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