If that west schedule happens it is going to be like have twin infants, I'm not going to get sleep for 1/2 a year

There's no debate. It would be like debating who had the better football team last year. Sam Houston or Lsu?

if I were George's agent...I would say it's a bad thing

agsquirrel97 said:

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If that west schedule happens it is going to be like have twin infants, I'm not going to get sleep for 1/2 a year

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maybe there will be more afternoon games, since the west coast games won't have fans for a while

oh yes, the Astros & Dodgers should open the season against one another...July 4th weekend preferably.

and it would be in Houston. All kinds of awesome

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agsquirrel97 said:

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If that west schedule happens it is going to be like have twin infants, I'm not going to get sleep for 1/2 a year

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maybe there will be more afternoon games, since the west coast games won't have fans for a while

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i'm sure they'll time it to maximize the tv viewing audience. prime time west coast will still be very late here

Now that the NBA has a deal done to come back I wonder if that puts more pressure on MLB to make a return happen

That's not too fair to compare. They're doing 6 games and then a huge tournament....very different than reconfiguring a full schedule for a 30 team league

That is what I am thinking. Every other major sport around you is getting back to business or at least planning to start on time.

It's also the only sport that was starting. Really easy for football to say "yup we're good, we will start normal" nascar in my opinion should have never stopped and basketballs solution is pretty basic and pathetic in my opinion. What are they doing salary wise?

Really think nba will be wondering why they are all Orlando once August rolls around.

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That's not too fair to compare. They're doing 6 games and then a huge tournament....very different than reconfiguring a full schedule for a 30 team league

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But they are going to be playing are they not?

MLB still has a chance to be the first league "back" if they could get something agreed to sooner rather than later. I see a lot of folks not thrilled with the NBA return being 7/31. MLB could have crazy viewership numbers if they are back July 4th weekend. Opportunity is there.

So the owners rejected the union's counter proposal without any comment? Welp...

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Major League Baseball has rejected the players' offer for a 114-game regular season with no additional salary cuts and told the union it did not plan to make a counterproposal, sources confirmed to ESPN.

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so it's June 3rd...yeah.

doesn't seem like the season is going to start 4th of July weekend

Owners told players "if you want to make BS offers, well just tell you what to are going to do".

I'm about to the point where I'm giving up hope on a 2020 season. At this point, I just don't see it happening

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Hope he brought someone to play catch with.

The closer the NBA gets to finalizing their playoffs my hope is that will put even more pressure on MLB and players to get something done.

Might not matter but I do think levels heads will hopefully grasp the ramifications of other sports figuring it out and you just not playing at all.

So the owners want to keep negotiating before just flat out agreeing to a 50 game schedule with full pro-rated pay.

Heyman means 82 games at full pro-rated pay doesn't he?

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Heyman means 82 games at full pro-rated pay doesn't he?

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Maybe there's a mystery team offering full pay

Pay per game? 25 man roster per game with 40 eligible maybe? If you're paying more than 25 per game that also adds a lot of money.

perhaps one significant problem...

what incentive does an owner...whose team is not a world series or playoff contender...have to play the season?

(especially if fans won't be allowed to attend the games)

for example, the Tigers.

They owe negative-WAR Cabrera $30 MM for 2020 and even worse Jordan Zimmermann $25 MM. This is the last year of Zimmermann's horrific contract.

it would be better for Detroit to just take the year off and get the #1 pick in both 2020 and 2021.

there's another 10 or so franchises in the same boat....especially in the American League

So if you can't play because MLB doesn't have a season, can you make a legal argument that the team still owes you that time on your contract? In other words if Detroit doesn't play does Cabrera's contract roll into the next year? I don't know but that's an argument some lawyer will make.

I think the tradeoff will be:

a cancelled 2020 season counts as a year of service toward free agency, but also counts as a no-pay-due year on a player's contract.

awesome for young players. Not awesome for old players with big contracts

one interesting example...Michael Wacha.

he signed a 1-year contract for $9 MM with the Mets.

he would become a free agent again without throwing a pitch if the 2020 season is cancelled.

not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing for him