*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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Mr.Ackar07
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Anybody following the MLB Dream Bracket?

The all-time Astros swept the all-time Orioles 4-0 in a best of 7 series. We must have cheated:

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-dream-bracket-round-of-32-orioles-vs-astros
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

Anybody following the MLB Dream Bracket?

The all-time Astros swept the all-time Orioles 4-0 in a best of 7 series. We must have cheated:

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-dream-bracket-round-of-32-orioles-vs-astros
Yeah that would not be my lineup.

Pitchers: Roy Oswalt, Larry Dierker, Mike Scott, Joe Niekro, J.R. Richard, Dallas Keuchel, Nolan Ryan, Billy Wagner, Dave Smith, Joe Sambito, Brad Lidge
Starters:
C: Brad Ausmus
1B: Jeff Bagwell
2B: Craig Biggio
3B: Alex Bregman
SS: Carlos Correa
LF: Jose Cruz
CF: Cesar Cedeno
RF: Lance Berkman
DH: Jos Altuve
Bench: Jimmy Wynn, George Springer, Moises Alou, Terry Puhl, Bob Watson, Alan Ashby
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Who would you replace?

I think Biggio and Altuve would be interchangeable at 2B/DH. You have two guys who at their prime are excellent hitters (Altuve gets the edge here); based on the eye test, I'd say Biggio edges Altuve out defensively if looking at him in his prime, but I'd be interested to see advanced statistics on the matter.

I think at the current moment, it's hard to argue against the rest of the position players. You have potential with sustained success for someone like Springer to jump Cedeno or Cruz, but I'd say he needs to have several more years like his last few to get there.

Pitching-wise, I'm surprised Lidge is there, considering his success was very shortlived. He was so dominant for a short time and then just completely lost it when Pujols sent that ball into orbit.
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bluefire579 said:

Who would you replace?

I think Biggio and Altuve would be interchangeable at 2B/DH. You have two guys who at their prime are excellent hitters (Altuve gets the edge here); based on the eye test, I'd say Biggio edges Altuve out defensively if looking at him in his prime, but I'd be interested to see advanced statistics on the matter.

I think at the current moment, it's hard to argue against the rest of the position players. You have potential with sustained success for someone like Springer to jump Cedeno or Cruz, but I'd say he needs to have several more years like his last few to get there.

Pitching-wise, I'm surprised Lidge is there, considering his success was very shortlived. He was so dominant for a short time and then just completely lost it when Pujols sent that ball into orbit.
Outfield is where I'm looking. Cruz and Cedeno for Alou and Springer. I believe it said best 3 years. So for Alou that is likely hitting .327 or so with 30+ bombs.

I also guess that JV hasn't played 3 full years so he doesn't qualify. Even though his ERA is under 2.5 since he's been here,
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shano0603 said:

bluefire579 said:

Who would you replace?

I think Biggio and Altuve would be interchangeable at 2B/DH. You have two guys who at their prime are excellent hitters (Altuve gets the edge here); based on the eye test, I'd say Biggio edges Altuve out defensively if looking at him in his prime, but I'd be interested to see advanced statistics on the matter.

I think at the current moment, it's hard to argue against the rest of the position players. You have potential with sustained success for someone like Springer to jump Cedeno or Cruz, but I'd say he needs to have several more years like his last few to get there.

Pitching-wise, I'm surprised Lidge is there, considering his success was very shortlived. He was so dominant for a short time and then just completely lost it when Pujols sent that ball into orbit.
Outfield is where I'm looking. Cruz and Cedeno for Alou and Springer. I believe it said best 3 years. So for Alou that is likely hitting .327 or so with 30+ bombs.

I also guess that JV hasn't played 3 full years so he doesn't qualify. Even though his ERA is under 2.5 since he's been here,
Ah, missed the part where it said best three years. Definitely an argument that can be made by that metric. If you're going by that as well, I'd think that you could also potentially make a case for Mike Hampton or Darryl Kyle or even Shane Reynolds for their time in the 90s.
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I would cheat and put Biggio at catcher.
falcon09
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If the Angels make it past the Tigers in their first round match up, does Nolan Ryan pitch against himself?
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Biggio owned 4/20
Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
tjack16
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Put Biggio at catcher, move Altuve to 2B and Springer to DH
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CoachRTM
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I'll go to some neural games
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Makes way more sense than Arizona.

Minute Made
Minute Made lite
Olsen
TU
Skeeters
Frisco
Corpus
San Antonio Rough Riders
Corpus
Tceh
UH
SmU
TCU
Texas State

Plus many many more that I don't know I'm sure, JUCOs? Other semi pro stadiums?
Pahdz
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That stadium in Grand Prairie next to the horse track still around?
BMX Bandit
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It's not Texas instead of AZ, it's Texas in addition to AZ and FL
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CoachRTM said:

I'll go to some neural games


Again, the point of all this is fans not being there....
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AstroAggie15 said:

CoachRTM said:

I'll go to some neural games


Again, the point of all this is fans not being there....

I was excited, and then womp womp...
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I agree it is a no-fan solution but if they start allowing small groups in or have such great success they decide to play the whole season like this we might be the first ones back in. Nobody knows at this point, but its fun to speculate.
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Our offense feels very comfortable hitting in Arlington so I like this solution
n_touch
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No matter where they play, do they get to bring the team trashcan?
the last of the bohemians
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Blue Bell going to have MLB?
Mathguy64
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I wonder how much begging and politicking the Rangers are doing to get something going in their new indoor/outdoor carpet showroom? They have a mortgage payment to make and no income to make it.
maca1028
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I like where your head's at!
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I gotta say it's kinda cool watching these replays on ATT knowing how the season shook out and how certain players ended up. Listening to Blummer's insight about projections and seeing some of the stats leaderboards knowing where everything ends up is different.

That said...It sucks seeing AJ in the dugout knowing how all that went down.
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Fightin' Texas Aggie and Sam Houston State Bearkat
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they took it easy because a harsh penalty probably sets back the Red Sox a decade. They are already f*cked on their own. MLB taking care of one of their cash cows here.
CFTXAG10
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I will withhold judgment until I read the full report by MLB, but so far the first part of that Athletic article is bull****
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Quote:

In addition to Watkins' denial of decoding signs during the game via the replay system, the league said that 30 players said they had no knowledge of such behavior.
Of course they said that
CFTXAG10
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Yepp, all it took was seeing what happened to the Astros to keep their mouths shut.

Then this:



So Manfred is quick to point to the % of time a runner was on 2nd base was minimal? GFY. The guy literally put forth zero effort when it came to the Astros to compile data on how often certain players used the scheme or if they did at all. Just left them out to dry.
n_touch
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This is a straight black eye for baseball even though they will never admit it. The fact that they could not do a real investigation is a joke. If you are going to use the Astros numbers from 2017 then you need to look at the same thing for the other teams to see what was going on. There is a jump on numbers of the Sox and Yanks from 2017 to 2018. I have no doubt that it was due to the hiring of Cora and Beltran. But whatever, they got the big bad Astros.
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A great big nothing burger.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Yepp, all it took was seeing what happened to the Astros to keep their mouths shut.

Then this:



So Manfred is quick to point to the % of time a runner was on 2nd base was minimal? GFY. The guy literally put forth zero effort when it came to the Astros to compile data on how often certain players used the scheme or if they did at all. Just left them out to dry.
Has anyone seen where the full report is posted?
Marvin
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Astros ownership caved to protect their stake. Players sang like canaries to protect their paychecks.

They should have not cheated. Beyond that, they should have collectively taken it to their graves. I'm pissed off all over again...
Nuke LaLoosh
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Lol.

Cheating is cheating, we just did it better. I'm ok with all of this.
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I don't think it's completely public, yet. Athletic article said it's coming this afternoon
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