*****Official 2019/2020 Houston Astros offseason thread*****

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AggieLit said:

I think the Astros this year might be a bit like Johnny Manziel in 2013. They will generate ticket sales everywhere they go. They will have higher tv ratings than possibly any other team, certainly higher than the Nationals. Most people will hate them but a significant minority will love them. And they will light it up, week in, week out.

Yes, please. I'll take that.

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aTm2004 said:


Jomboy is a ****ing partisan idiot and I'd love nothing more than Altuve to get enough and get his legal team to go after him for slander, because the dude just posts random **** without vetting it.
Eh, I wouldn't worry about it....I'm feeling confident that within the next 5 years I'll see a random headline that will have a following lede that says "Yankee super fan with internet notoriety for Twitter film breakdown arrested after an FBI raid allegedly turns up 3 hard drives full of child porn."
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AggieLit said:

I think the Astros this year might be a bit like Johnny Manziel in 2013. They will generate ticket sales everywhere they go. They will have higher tv ratings than possibly any other team, certainly higher than the Nationals. Most people will hate them but a significant minority will love them. And they will light it up, week in, week out.



And yet, I bet I still can't get them on TV in my area or without mlb blackouts
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Harry Dunne said:

Now that everyone can be a "journalist", the ethical standards for reporting are somewhere between those of posting on the Texags GB and the baseball forum.
I've said it before: Social media has destroyed journalism. Most journalists now are more concerned about getting it out first than making sure the information is right. Some journalists still work for truth and accuracy, but that is becoming fewer and fewer. Thank idiots like Jomboy for that.
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I'm probably gonna be eating some crow on Dusty.

I was pretty sure it was a disastrous hire and he was one of the worst choices of those on the list.

But seeing how it's all playing out and some of the things he's said lately it may end up being a genius hire.

I know he's catching some flack but Crane isn't dumb.
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Season ticket holder is now suing the Astros.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/Astros-fan-lawsuit-cheating-scandal-sign-stealing-15061592.php?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow#photo-19044549

Sorry, dude. How can you call yourself a fan?
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Ag_07 said:

I'm probably gonna be eating some crow on Dusty.

I was pretty sure it was a disastrous hire and he was one of the worst choices of those on the list.

But seeing how it's all playing out and some of the things he's said lately it may end up being a genius hire.

I know he's catching some flack but Crane isn't dumb.


I will be playing the race card big time on my yearly road trip

"WHY DONT YOU LIKE THE ASTROS?!?! IS IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BLACK MANAGER??? ALL OF YOUR (insert opposing fans) ARE A BUNCH OF RACISTS"
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Ha. This is a worse scheme than Bolsinger. What an idiot.
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One thing is confusing to me.... Where was this level of outrage and vitriol when the Patriots cheated (clearly documented and caught red-handed)
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Buck Compton said:

One thing is confusing to me.... Where was this level of outrage and vitriol when the Patriots cheated (clearly documented and caught red-handed)
Social media wasn't as big back then during Spygate like it is now. Social media gives all dumbasses the same megaphone, regardless of their opinions, to shout from the rooftops.
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agproducer said:

Buck Compton said:

One thing is confusing to me.... Where was this level of outrage and vitriol when the Patriots cheated (clearly documented and caught red-handed)
Social media wasn't as big back then during Spygate like it is now. Social media gives all dumbasses the same megaphone, regardless of their opinions, to shout from the rooftops.
It was big during Deflategate, but the Boston media actually has balls and a spine, something a large majority of these Houston betas lack. NE also had an owner who wasn't a complete *****.
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Please, by all means give us an 81 game head start. You cannot make this level of stupidity up....

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Big Cat `93 said:

Hear hear. I think Dusty is the perfect guy to deal with this and capitalize on an us vs. them situation with this team. Gibbons probably would have been good at that, too, but his results just can't compare with Baker's.
I've definitely been critical of the hire, but I think he's been solid so far in his approach and demeanor since he joined on. Time will tell for on-field results and I still have my reservations there based on his history as a manager, but I will gladly eat crow if the results call for it.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Please, by all means give us an 81 game head start. You cannot make this level of stupidity up....


Maybe they'd continue it through the playoffs and forfeit us another title.
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bluefire579 said:

CFTXAG10 said:

Please, by all means give us an 81 game head start. You cannot make this level of stupidity up....


Maybe they'd continue it through the playoffs and forfeit us another title.
And, it would allow the Astros to play fewer games, so they'd be well-rested for October.
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CFTXAG10 said:

Please, by all means give us an 81 game head start. You cannot make this level of stupidity up....




Wonder why the player didn't want his name next to that idea. So dumb.
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agproducer said:

Harry Dunne said:

Now that everyone can be a "journalist", the ethical standards for reporting are somewhere between those of posting on the Texags GB and the baseball forum.
I've said it before: Social media has destroyed journalism. Most journalists now are more concerned about getting it out first than making sure the information is right. Some journalists still work for truth and accuracy, but that is becoming fewer and fewer. Thank idiots like Jomboy for that.

Yep. They're gunning for the promotion/exposure like that for Schefter, Wojnarowski, etc. And now Passan is getting tons of air time at ESPN, which is doubly terrible because he sounds like he's doing a bad imitation of Mr. Rogers when he talks.
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Deluxe said:

CFTXAG10 said:

Please, by all means give us an 81 game head start. You cannot make this level of stupidity up....




Wonder why the player didn't want his name next to that idea. So dumb.


No player said that. She just didn't want her name next it so she floats it out there as from a unanimous player.
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That's a much more likely explanation
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Or some guys got together when standing around the cages and came with a plan to see what's the absolute dumbest thing they can say that a reporter will actually run with.

They decided on this and she took the bait
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"It's sad for baseball," Trout said. "It's tough. They cheated. I don't agree with the punishments, the players not getting anything. It was a player-driven thing. It sucks, too, because guys' careers have been affected, a lot of people lost jobs.

Who, Mike?

I'm really curious as to who, besides Jeff Luhnow and AJ Hinch, lost their jobs because of this. I've heard the talking point a couple times now from opposing players, but it just seems like more hyperbole. Who lost a job?

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hugheja02.shtml
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I've seen multiple quotes of players saying they're disappointed that the players got "no punishment". Why do the reporters not remind them that the players were most likely given immunity so all of the truth would come out? I guess they just care about their sob little stories more than the actual truth.
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Seems like a solid cheap bullpen arm

Career 2.88 ERA and had a 4.04 ERA last year.
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Wabs said:

I've seen multiple quotes of players saying they're disappointed that the players got "no punishment". Why do the reporters not remind them that the players were most likely given immunity so all of the truth would come out? I guess they just care about their sob little stories more than the actual truth.


The same weasels would be running to hide behind the players union first chance they had.
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CFTXAG10 said:



Why not. He had a nice run from 2014-2018 with a sub-3.00 ERA, then kind of lost it last year (4.04). Maybe Strom can resurrect his arm. Throws a sinker most of the time- here comes more spin!
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bearkatag15 said:

Seems like a solid cheap bullpen arm

Career 2.88 ERA and had a 4.04 ERA last year.

I'm all for it if we can avoid the AAAA contingent.
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A player suggested a very unusual punishment for #Astros so I thought I'd share. Every single team refuses to take the field at Minute Maid Park. Visitors forfeit every game there. Astros go 81-0 at home, but affects their revenue (no fans with no games played!) Quite an idea!
Related to these tards? (Former Yankee Phil Hughes)
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Seeing how big of babies other players are being is actually kind of funny.

The guys are saying they lost to the Astros only because they cheated. So, they should be able to easily beat the Astros now that we assuredly will not be cheating, right?

Oh, I see, you just want all the talent suspended so you can continue on with your "if it weren't for the cheating story."

If this were the Blue Jays, no player would be saying this crap.
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NE also had an owner who wasn't a complete *****.

Yeah..... all that guy did was force his team to honor his deceased wife with a patch all season, then did his own grieving by running out and getting a rub & tug and a couple fingers up his pooper
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I do wish the Astros had one media homer that would challenge some of these dumb as bricks takes from some of these players.

Someone needs to seriously challenge the lost jobs take.
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you know one small effect of all this...

no one is talking about Yordan. He can quietly get ready for his second year. With minimal pressure and hype, because everyone is focusing on the 2017 team

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Do people really want to see what's behind the curtain of MLB? People just need to shut up and move forward. Sure people are going to lose jobs because of this. Now there is more scrutiny on all levels of cheating so teams that were stealing signs are going to have the marginal hitters fail, pitchers who used to have so much junk in their gloves are going to get lit up, it's going to be interesting to see who's stats really fall off this year around the league.
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