***** Official 2017 Astros Off Season Thread *****
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Last: 7 yr ago by Mr.Bond
Fiers definitely had his share of blunders, and that's typically what sticks out about him. When he'd string together quality starts and get you thinking he had things figured out, he'd go out and lay an egg. And when you're just about ready to be done with him, he'll give you seven with one earned run.titanmaster_race said:
I'd like to look at average run support per start by pitcher. It felt like every time Fiers took the mound, he gave up tons of runs. Yet he would always get incredible run support. Perhaps that's just my bias wanting to confirm my distaste for him.
As fifth starters go, however, I'm fine with him. I would like to see him give us about 20-30 more innings over the course of the season and get the ERA down back around 4. But honestly, Fiers, Musgrove, Morton...it really doesn't matter who the fifth starter is. I think they'll all be fine. It's one and two that concerns me.
So sounds like Bregman, Paulino/Martes/Whitely, and Fisher/Cameron would be a rough equivalent of the meat of the deal...
Keuchel, McCullers, Mchugh, Musgrove, and Morton should be our 5 starters. Put Fiers in the long inning relief spot. Maybe you plug Fiers in for one of the above if they struggle or get hurt. That starting 5 has a high ceiling (minus McHugh), but also a low floor. Lots of unknowns stepping into the season...
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
Need to give devenski a shot
Agree, but he was so clutch as long relief.Mr.Bond said:
Need to give devenski a shot
Do we push hard for Archer now since we upped the ante in the Sale sweepstakes?
Oops I left him out. I am in full support of him getting a shot. That'll be tough to decide who makes rotation then. You would think Morton wouldn't based off recent years, but we just paid him 14M not to be long inning.
What about Feliz?
I see Feliz as a bullpen guy, personally. He showed flashes last year but also struggled heavily with consistency. I at least need to see a lot more of him before I give him a starting pitcher spot.
Long-term: I think he'll be a 7th or 8th inning guy.
Long-term: I think he'll be a 7th or 8th inning guy.
Feliz could be our new Dotel.
I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
Why is that?rosco511 said:I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
In college I watched them both and thought both were excellent, but I liked Swanson better. Now I've only really followed Bregman since he's a stro so maybe he's struggled since, IDK. Just curious.
Dansby hit over 300 as a 22 year old rookie is 150 AB's... Not sure why you think that.rosco511 said:I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
Good points. I guess I've still been thinking of Fiers as a #3. I think he'd be alright as a #5.
(on MLB Network radio)
- Hinch: "Beltran is one of the most distinguished players that understands the the game, his presence makes our whole roster better."
- AJ Hinch: "Everyone put us together with that particular player (Encarnacion)... I'd say it's unlikely, but never say never."
- AJ Hinch: "Knowing if some things fall our way we are very comfortable with our rotation, but an upgrade is always a possibility."
I do not think he is going to hit for the same kind of power.shano0603 said:Dansby hit over 300 as a 22 year old rookie is 150 AB's... Not sure why you think that.rosco511 said:I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
maybe. But we didn't honestly know that Bregman was going to.rosco511 said:I do not think he is going to hit for the same kind of power.shano0603 said:Dansby hit over 300 as a 22 year old rookie is 150 AB's... Not sure why you think that.rosco511 said:I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
J_R said:
(on MLB Network radio)
- Hinch: "Beltran is one of the most distinguished players that understands the the game, his presence makes our whole roster better."
Here are some really good tidbits from Beltran about his role here. Sounds like he understands he's not here to be a superstar but he to just be consistent and have that veteran presence we need. Complete opposite of one splash veteran bat we brought he via trade a couple years back.
I'm liking this signing more and more.
shano0603 said:maybe. But we didn't honestly know that Bregman was going to.rosco511 said:I do not think he is going to hit for the same kind of power.shano0603 said:Dansby hit over 300 as a 22 year old rookie is 150 AB's... Not sure why you think that.rosco511 said:I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
Honestly, we have no real idea of the type of player Bregman will be.
Well, we have an IDEA of how good Bregman will be, just don't know if that idea will come to fruition.Nuke LaLoosh said:shano0603 said:maybe. But we didn't honestly know that Bregman was going to.rosco511 said:I do not think he is going to hit for the same kind of power.shano0603 said:Dansby hit over 300 as a 22 year old rookie is 150 AB's... Not sure why you think that.rosco511 said:I know Swanson is highly rated and should be a good player, but I just do not see him as in the same category as Bregman.iBrad said:
Baseball America's mid-season rankings this past summer. Moncada topped the list.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-100-prospects/
Honestly, we have no real idea of the type of player Bregman will be.
Texags is still the place for debating/correcting trivialities, right?
When looking at all of these deals... I just like to remember that the Rangers gave up a boatload to get Beltran for a short period of time and won the same amount of playoff games as we did.
Lucroy too, but he's still there and I think he just may be worth it.
Ramos doesn't play 1B
So are the Rays buyers or sellers?
Didn't we have him for $9 mill per year