***** Official 2017 Astros Off Season Thread *****

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How in the world do we not sign his brother?!
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McCann isn't worth multiple top young players, even absorbing $17M of what he's owed. I don't blame the Yankees for trying, but I'd move on from that until the price comes down. He's not the perennial all-star catcher that the Yankees paid for and didn't get.

The Rangers gave up two top five prospects and a top 20 for LuCroy, but got a better hitter and a reliever. So, maybe the Yankees could throw in a guy like Tommy Layne, too. We need another lefty in the pen and he's under team control for four more years. Over his career, he's held lefties to a .177 average. Add him to the deal and their ask isn't looking as bad.
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Wtf?? I thought the only reason we signed he older brother was to sign the younger one???
Buck Compton
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Mr.Bond said:

How in the world do we not sign his brother?!
Trump is already making all the good ball players go to Canada!! Rabble rabble!
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Can't imagine they wanted to spend that much for a SS that would have to convert to OF not knowing how well of an OFer he is. The info we've gotten so far tells us were in the market for high level proven MLB player.

And we've found out that Gurriel is a nice player in his own right and to think we only signed him to sign his brother is selling Yuli short.

I'm not too miffed about not signing him.
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Jays sign Kendrys Morales. Encarnacion most likely wont return, could the Astro's push for him as DH/1B?
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Encarnacion could fill a void for the 'stros.

it's really about how many years he wants on the contract --- not as much about the money
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Give him all the years.
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    Astros GM Jeff Luhnow tells Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle that he and the rest of his front office are leaving this week's GM Meetings with a lengthy list of "leads" to pursue in terms of both free agents and trades. "I think we're going to start making some offers right away, both with teams as well as with agents and players," said Luhnow. "Whether or not it leads to anything next week, I don't know. But I would like to have one or two things done before the winter meetings if possible."

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it's always fun spending someone else's money.

have to be careful not to sign him to a potentially franchise-killing contract. And that would be one that goes beyond 2020
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Talk about Misinterpreting a tweet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/houseofhouston.com/2016/11/10/houston-astros-rumors-trade-jose-altuve-miguel-cabrera/amp/?client=safari

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Is it possible? Yes and you'll never believe whom it'd likely involve.

Morosi also adds this important tidbit:

"Miguel Cabrera has full no-trade clause. Jose Altuve would be key part of sales pitch; they are friends from same hometown of Maracay. @MLB"

Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) November 9, 2016
Yes, Jose Altuve.

Say it ain't so I'd think that he's the only Astros player that's untouchable but if Jeff Luhnow is serious about acquiring the first baseman then he'll have play hardball.

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Psych said:

Talk about Misinterpreting a tweet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/houseofhouston.com/2016/11/10/houston-astros-rumors-trade-jose-altuve-miguel-cabrera/amp/?client=safari

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Is it possible? Yes and you'll never believe whom it'd likely involve.

Morosi also adds this important tidbit:

"Miguel Cabrera has full no-trade clause. Jose Altuve would be key part of sales pitch; they are friends from same hometown of Maracay. @MLB"

Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) November 9, 2016
Yes, Jose Altuve.

Say it ain't so I'd think that he's the only Astros player that's untouchable but if Jeff Luhnow is serious about acquiring the first baseman then he'll have play hardball.


What a moron. This guy makes money doing this?
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wow, so someone thinks the 'stros are going to trade a 4-time all-star making just $6 MM for a guy in his 30's making $30 MM?
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how do you misinterpret that tweet that poorly?
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Blind Resume Comparison. Bold = leads, Italic = trails (of the 3)

Player / OPS / SLUG / OPS / WRC+ / R / RBI / WAR
- A - / 363 / 534 / 897 / 135 / 122 / 113 / 7.8
- B - / 441 / 550 / 991 / 171 / 123 / 100 / 9.4
- C - / 396 / 531 / 928 / 150 / 108 / 96 / 6.7



To me it is:

B


gap



C
A
(I could go either way C/A)
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iBrad
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What if mystery candidate D is added?

Player / OBP / SLUG / OPS / WRC+ / R / RBI / WAR
- A - / 363 / 534 / 897 / 135 / 122 / 113 / 7.8
- B - / 441 / 550 / 991 / 171 / 123 / 100 / 9.4
- C - / 396 / 531 / 928 / 150 / 108 / 96 / 6.7
- D - / 401 / 620 / 1021 / 163 / 79 / 127 / 4.4
Mr.Bond
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Edwins BA was way too low imo
Buck Compton
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I thought I knew who these were buy I'm having trouble now. Tuve is C, right?

We only using offensive WAR I guess? Is B trout then with A being Betts?
iBrad
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Correct. And it looks like total WAR. At least that's what fangraphs has.
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I just confused myself cause I swore Trout broke 10 this year so I was second guessing myself and didn't want to take time to look it up!

Trout deserves it but Betts will win it
Buck Compton
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No way Betts led in WAR. No chance.
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D is Papi. You can knock him for only being a DH, but his offensive stats were pretty damn impressive this year, especially for a 40 year old in his last season.
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iBrad said:

D is Papi. You can knock him for only being a DH, but his offensive stats were pretty damn impressive this year, especially for a 40 year old in his last season.
I agree. And if we didn't have a strong group of deserving award winners then I would include Papi, but the 3 finalist were already named. Like if it was 2009 then I would give Papi the award over Pedoria and his .869 OPS.
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I stand corrected, I remember Edwin leading the league in RBIs and assumed it was him
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I'm starting to think that maybe Altuve has a shot at MVP after all. Semi-surprised to see him in the top 3 after his month of September. Maybe the writers won't hold it against him. He was the best player in the league in May, June, July, and August
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Alex Cora hired as bench coach.
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Really like that hire.
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From MLBTR

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The Red Sox, Astros, Yankees and Blue Jays are the four teams that are showing the most interest in free-agent designated hitter/right fielder Carlos Beltran, reports WEEI.com's Rob Bradford. According to Bradford, the Rangers aren't involved in the talks for Beltran at this point.

I'd be OK with it for the right price, but I cant see him choosing to play here after being booed 10 years after he gave us one of the greatest postseason runs ever.

Stupid ass fans

Also

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  • Astros GM Jeff Luhnow told reporters today, including MLB.com's Brian McTaggart, that he still hopes to have one or two transactions completed before the Winter Meetings (video link). Luhnow said as much when leaving the GM Meetings last week, but the Houston GM offered indications today that the club has narrowed its focus. "I think instead of working on 12 things right now, we're working on four, which gives us a little bit more focus," said Luhnow. "We're in a position where we did all of our homework ahead of time, we know what resources we have, we know what needs we need to fill, and we can be a little bit more aggressive this year than we have in years past." Asked about his potential areas of focus, Luhnow spoke generally about needing "some pitching help" and "a bat or two," though he did say that his team is willing to act as quickly as a trade partner or agent will allow.

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I'd still boo him

Tradition and all
Farmer1906
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I'm one of those dumbass fans. Screw Beltran. I booed him when the yanks were in town this past year.
Buck Compton
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I don't want any part of Beltran. Need a bigger piece than that since it's going to be next to impossible to improve pitching...
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aggie1906 said:

I'm one of those dumbass fans. Screw Beltran. I booed him when the yanks were in town this past year.
I'm also one of those stupid ass fans. **** that guy. I don't give a **** wtf he did in the playoffs. I booed the hell out of him when he was on the Rangers.
 
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