Vanderbilt soccer's Sarah Fuller 'an option' to kick for football team, coach says
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Be curious to see what this does to her scholarship. IIRC dual-sport football athletes' scholarships must count against the football limit, not their other sport.
Its such a stupid PR move. I kicked with a number of guys that never had the opportunity to play at that level, but I guarantee they're far better than her. Ridiculous. Sexism.
Yep. The above post does sound like sexism.
Kathy Ireland already did this at Texas State University
I'm still waiting for Carli Lloyd to kick in the NFL because she made that 50 yarder one time with an extra run up
She's set to transfer to UNT to play soccer there in the spring I think.
MookieBlaylock said:
Kathy Ireland already did this at Texas State University
"Welcome to foot...ball!"
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
By kicking the 2nd half kickoff against Mizzou, she became the first in the Power 5, Mook.
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The power 5?
Get out of here with that non sense
Get out of here with that non sense
Today I found out there are two history books, one for P5 snd one for everyone elseMookieBlaylock said:
The power 5?
Get out of here with that non sense
Is this a serious post on an Aggie forum?
Anyone else think it was a terrible kick or did they purposely have her pooch it
Watch the coverage. It was as designed.
Cool
It's a serious post, just like the P5 record book.aggiesoccer#1fan said:
Is this a serious post on an Aggie forum?
There was more to this than just the PR. They didn't have a kicker and needed one fast, and also needed one who was already adhering to the SECs Covid protocols. She was, so they were able to immediately plug her into the team. That doesn't mean the PR wasn't a factor, but she was a better option than borrowing a dude from the basketball team.
Also she was apparently better than anyone else currently on their roster.
Oh I didn't mean to imply otherwise
Vanderbilt's coach was coaching for his job. In fact, he was fired today.
As the poster above noted, he would have preferred someone who had been through Covid testing protocol so he could trust them to not infect the team. He surely also wanted someone who he knew what they could do, and he could rely on them to go do it.
He went and found the goalkeeper from the soccer team---someone who has been going through the Covid protocol and he knew could go out and reliably kick a ball where he asked her to kick it.
You have to be a little dense not to understand that, and pretty fragile to get fired up about this.
As the poster above noted, he would have preferred someone who had been through Covid testing protocol so he could trust them to not infect the team. He surely also wanted someone who he knew what they could do, and he could rely on them to go do it.
He went and found the goalkeeper from the soccer team---someone who has been going through the Covid protocol and he knew could go out and reliably kick a ball where he asked her to kick it.
You have to be a little dense not to understand that, and pretty fragile to get fired up about this.
Oh, I'm with you. I knew what you were saying, just tacking that point on to what you said.
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I'll repeat that the other 4 kickers (2 scholarship, 2 walk-ons) were all unavailable.
I'll grant you that maybe the Wall Street Journal misreported that her longest was from the "38 yard line" rather than was a 38 yard field goal.
As for the rest, there's no reason to believe the coach was lying about the kick. It was between the return team's levels where there was essentially zero chance for a return and a weird bounce would have allowed Vanderbilt a chance to recover it.
I'll grant you that maybe the Wall Street Journal misreported that her longest was from the "38 yard line" rather than was a 38 yard field goal.
As for the rest, there's no reason to believe the coach was lying about the kick. It was between the return team's levels where there was essentially zero chance for a return and a weird bounce would have allowed Vanderbilt a chance to recover it.
When I coached, we had deep directional kicks (regular and squib), mid-distance directional kicks (squib and and pooch), and all our onside stuff.
Anyway, I don't feel like arguing this much further. It's a waste of time if folks aren't listening to learn.
Anyway, I don't feel like arguing this much further. It's a waste of time if folks aren't listening to learn.
https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-football-only-kicker-missouri/6383910002/Quote:
Sarah Fuller is the only kicker available for Vanderbilt against Missouri today, a Vanderbilt spokesperson confirmed.
Fuller, punter/holder Harrison Smith and long snapper Wesley Schelling are available. Other specialists are not available due to COVID-19 contact tracing.
Fuller was the only kicker to travel with the team, according to Vanderbilt spokesperson Alan George. Smith, a former Brentwood Academy standout, could also attempt PAT kicks and field goals, but he would need a different holder.
Also, see the WSJ linked in my previous post.
And there were likely 20 more qualified dudes walking around campus, but this guy wouldn't get the headlines on his way out of he had grabbed one of them.TXAggie2011 said:
I'll repeat that the other 4 kickers (2 scholarship, 2 walk-ons) were all unavailable.
I'll grant you that maybe the Wall Street Journal misreported that her longest was from the "38 yard line" rather than was a 38 yard field goal.
As for the rest, there's no reason to believe the coach was lying about the kick. It was between the return team's levels where there was essentially zero chance for a return and a weird bounce would have allowed Vanderbilt a chance to recover it.
And yes the Wall Street Journal is almost certainly misreporting. Every other article I can find says 38 yards, and even the WSJ article says "longer than the 34.5-yard average length of successful field-goal attempts in Division I college football this season." First of all, if she was really kicking 13+ yards further than average then they would make a bigger deal of that disparity. Instead it sounds like they meant to say that she was kicking 3.5 yards above average. And secondly, if 34.5 yard was really the average (which I doubt.. more on that later) and her MAX was 38, then that wouldn't be impressive. Secondly I doubt the 34.5 number. If that is really the mean then there must be a CRAPTON of successful FG's beyond 34.5 to counter those close up. Since nobody is kicking 70 yard field goals. To me that points to sloppy reporting in general. Either the number is wrong, or they did a crappy job of explaining it. And they have no link to anything to back it up.
Ahh.. So YOU are the only one that can be right on the subject and the rest of us aren't willing to learn from your genius. That it?jeffk said:
When I coached, we had deep directional kicks (regular and squib), mid-distance directional kicks (squib and and pooch), and all our onside stuff.
Anyway, I don't feel like arguing this much further. It's a waste of time if folks aren't listening to learn.
You don't find it weird that such news didn't come out until THAT DAY? We knew about Trevor Lawrence the second it was determined he was ineligible. Was Vandy trying to keep their secret weapon secret from Mizzou? So they couldn't prepare for Fuller? Too bad Dabo wasn't as smart as Derek Mason and kept that info secret from ND.TXAggie2011 said:https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/college/vanderbilt/2020/11/28/sarah-fuller-vanderbilt-football-only-kicker-missouri/6383910002/Quote:
Sarah Fuller is the only kicker available for Vanderbilt against Missouri today, a Vanderbilt spokesperson confirmed.
Fuller, punter/holder Harrison Smith and long snapper Wesley Schelling are available. Other specialists are not available due to COVID-19 contact tracing.
Fuller was the only kicker to travel with the team, according to Vanderbilt spokesperson Alan George. Smith, a former Brentwood Academy standout, could also attempt PAT kicks and field goals, but he would need a different holder.
Also, see the WSJ linked in my previous post.
Two missing aspects of this story is not only the lengths to which coaches and staff are willing to just get their team to play with such stringent covid safety protocols but also the continuing specialization of football players. No one else on the team had experience or talent? Too much in soccer but definitely in football, not enough players grow up playing all over the field. I recall watching Shane Lechler warming up on the sidelines as the teams 3rd string QB and the previous weekend in MLS we saw a second team centerback save a PK during a PK shootout.
We've had games cancelled the day of the game. No, I don't find it weird that it would be the day of the game that the status of an 0-7 team's kickers were confirmed.
Congratulations on Politics Boarding this thread.
Congratulations on Politics Boarding this thread.
I get what you're saying and agree about sports in general, but I'm not sure its ever been the case that football players all spent a little time learning to kick field goals.tysker said:
Two missing aspects of this story is not only the lengths to which coaches and staff are willing to just get their team to play with such stringent covid safety protocols but also the continuing specialization of football players. No one else on the team had experience or talent? Too much in soccer but definitely in football, not enough players grow up playing all over the field. I recall watching Shane Lechler warming up on the sidelines as the teams 3rd string QB and the previous weekend in MLS we saw a second team centerback save a PK during a PK shootout.
I get the specialty of it but with 85 scholarships and 20ish walk-ons they couldn't find one with some experience or talent? At Vandy? No other players, like those from small schools, also played soccer or even goofed around kicking the ball enough to raise their hand and be willing to try? Seems like a low bar of expectation
Of COURSE you don't find it weird. You WANT it to be true.TXAggie2011 said:
We've had games cancelled the day of the game. No, I don't find it weird that it would be the day of the game that the status of an 0-7 team's kickers were confirmed.
Congratulations on Politics Boarding this thread.
If this were legit, then it would have been announced Sunday or Monday that all of their kickers were out due to covid reasons. They would have announced an open tryout and Fuller would have won out. And everybody would have known nearly all week that she was the only kicker available.
Instead, we get rumors on Tuesday (or earlier) that Fuller was "an option", but didn't even take any kicks. Then they announced on Saturday that she was the only kicker "available". Why? I think it was because they wanted to avoid questions like those in this thread. If ANY other kicker traveled with the team, then common sense would have had them kick instead of Fuller. But they wanted her to take the kick so she could go down as the first P5 female kicker. So they arrange it so that she is the only one who travels. Maybe it's also to give the other kickers a face saver so they don't come out and confirm it as a PR move.
The fact that coach is claiming that her terrible kick was "exactly where she should have punched it" makes it clear PR. Who in the hell chips a squib kick? Obviously he is covering for her.
And the people who politicized this thread are those who who call common sense "sexist".
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