Away goals

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AustinScubaAg
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Is this really a good tie breaker. It has not really changed the way teams play on the road IMHO.
eiggA2002
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I believe UEFA is discussing alternatives or to do away with it all together. However, it doesn't seem to frustrate many until their team loses because of it.
bbattbq01
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I'm a city fan so obviously hate it after going out of champs league 2 of last 3 seasons on it now I think... but did any neutral fan really want that game to end today????
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It makes the most sense

It's honestly better than PKs and each team knows what they have to do before the game
jeffdjohnson
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Extra Time + PK > Away Goals
DeangeloVickers
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I HATE PKs deciding this sport

Those last moments were WAY better than PKs
deadbq03
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I'd love to see data behind it, because I'm pulling this out of a hat here, but I gotta think that extra time favors the home team.

Home advantage seems to be stronger in soccer than any other sport. I like rewarding teams who take care of business there and then prove they can get points on the road too.

That said, I don't like it when both matches are draws and one game happens to have more goals than the other. I'm not sure why that feels different to me, but it does.
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bbattbq01 said:

I'm a city fan so obviously hate it after going out of champs league 2 of last 3 seasons on it now I think... but did any neutral fan really want that game to end today????



City lost because they didn't play 1st team in London
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Ryno01 said:

bbattbq01 said:

I'm a city fan so obviously hate it after going out of champs league 2 of last 3 seasons on it now I think... but did any neutral fan really want that game to end today????



City lost because they didn't play 1st team in London


Can't disagree. I did a big wtf when line up came out last week but can understand Peps thinking. 3 comps and that was the "least" important match, need to rest people sometime.
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deadbq03 said:

I'd love to see data behind it, because I'm pulling this out of a hat here, but I gotta think that extra time favors the home team.

Home advantage seems to be stronger in soccer than any other sport. I like rewarding teams who take care of business there and then prove they can get points on the road too.

That said, I don't it when both matches are draws and one game happens to have more goals than the other. I'm not sure why that feels different to me, but it does.
Would be best to do a third match if tied on total goal. Play at a neutral site. If domestic cups can have a replay why not champions league.
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Ryno01 said:

It makes the most sense

It's honestly better than PKs and each team knows what they have to do before the game
I agree. I hate PKs.

In my world single elimination games would just be replayed, similar to the FA Cup(though that may change soon). I understand that's no longer doable, but still.

In a situation like a two legged event Away goals is the best solution IMHO.
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Dre_00
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I think it's the English League Cup that goes to extra time in the semi final round if the aggregate is tied at the end of the 2nd game and then goes to away goals if it's still tied at the end of extra time. Not sure if that's still the case but I know they used to do it that way. It's an interesting thought if nothing else and at least tries to find a middle ground.
jeffk
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I'd prefer ET and then letting away goals break the tie instead of pks.
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jeffk said:

I'd prefer ET and then letting away goals carry break the tie instead of pks.
I like that idea.
deadbq03
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I think you could get away with it domestically because there's fewer moving parts.

Trying to do it in the UEFA competitions would frequently result in Mon/Tues games with teams playing a league or domestic cup game on Weds/Thurs and then another league game on Sat/Sun. One or both teams would have to make very hard personnel decisions and would have a tougher time in the other games that week because of fatigue.

This is just how sports go. Tightly contested games/series could always have gone the other way if things were different. At some point, like Ryan said, in all competitions in all sports, both teams know what they have to do, so the one who gets it done deserves it. And on the flip side, the "we ran out of time" or "we got hosed by the refs" or whatever feeds the drama, which if we're honest with ourselves is what makes sports fun. Games aren't meant to be played on paper.
OregonAggie
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I'm probably my a loner here but I like the away goal rule. It's an added wrinkle to the games and we wouldn't have had that crazy ending yesterday without it. As another poster said, ET on the 2nd leg would basically give the home team that day an advantage over the away team.

I think it's great because of the number of boring games I've seen over the years in world cups or euros where teams are playing too conservative and the game just trudges along. This rule does incentivize attacking play away instead of bus parking.

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jeffk said:

I'd prefer ET and then letting away goals break the tie instead of pks.
It's a good idea, but I think that you'll see a lot of resistance from the leagues, clubs, and players for that. That is because the away goals makes extra time a real rarity in a high-stakes competition that is already a serious intrusion into domestic campaigns.

Ultimately, I think you just have to leave it as-is. I know in the round of 16 that group winners get the second leg at home. It would be interesting to see more robust seeding (as in actually ranking the final 8 from 1-8) and then giving the highest seed the second match at home against the lowest remaining seed all the way to the final.
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Leave the game alone.
deadbq03
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Speaking of away goals, if you've got time/ability to catch the 2nd half of Frankfurt-Benfica, it ought to be worth watching. First half was fantastic... capped off with the Benfica manager getting sent off.
jeffk
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Oh, yeah. I don't see them changing it up at all either, that's just my personal preference.
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