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Truvada_for_prep
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Ronaldo was the reason Protugal got to the final of the Euros.
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snowdog90 said:

Gigem Trevas said:

The best players step up in big games. In Barcelona's recent champions league chokes he's been absolutely anonymous.


Again this is wrong. He created 3 or 4 EASY goal scoring chances in the first half that were botched by teammates. That is not being anonymous. That is having no help from 10 other guys.


He missed two shots outside the post in the first half that were perfect for him, his signature area. He was also too lazy to challenge balls within five yards of him outside the Liverpool box in the second half. He quit.

And really, this is why the Messi goat stuff is so hilarious. His legacy is built on Xavi and Iniesta. Neymar delivered the last one. He's so great but now the teams letting him down. Sure, that's it.

Ronaldo carried several teams on his own for RM.
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Gigem Trevas said:

Barcelona recent champions league defeats.
2019 Liverpool 4-0. 4-3 agg.
2018 Roma 3-0. 4-4 agg
2017 Juventus 0-0. 3-0 agg.
2016 Atltico 2-0. 3-2 agg.
It appears that Messi isn't the big game player people think he is.


What's crazy is this doesn't capture other ties where they had huge deficits. Like 4-0 to PSG (with an amazing comeback of 6-1). He takes entire legs off and has to hope like crazy his effort is enough when he plays.

Messidependencia return.
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AGC said:

snowdog90 said:

Gigem Trevas said:

The best players step up in big games. In Barcelona's recent champions league chokes he's been absolutely anonymous.


Again this is wrong. He created 3 or 4 EASY goal scoring chances in the first half that were botched by teammates. That is not being anonymous. That is having no help from 10 other guys.


He missed two shots outside the post in the first half that were perfect for him, his signature area. He was also too lazy to challenge balls within five yards of him outside the Liverpool box in the second half. He quit.

And really, this is why the Messi goat stuff is so hilarious. His legacy is built on Xavi and Iniesta. Neymar delivered the last one. He's so great but now the teams letting him down. Sure, that's it.

Ronaldo carried several teams on his own for RM.


This is beyond moronic. I refuse to debate this idiotic statement.
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Truvada_for_prep said:

Ronaldo was the reason Protugal got to the final of the Euros.


Messi was the reason Argentina got to the world cup final.
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Oops: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1124192/Lionel-Messi-Barcelona-Liverpool-team-bus-Champions-League-football-news

Poor Messi. Maybe he'll resort to 'roids again to actually win the CL next season.
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Until this current CL season Ronaldo was the top scorer in the competition for 7 straight years. During this time he's set his own individual scoring records in the competition. He owns the most goals in CL history and the most knockout stage goals in history.
2016 scored a hat trick down 2-0 to beat Wolfsburg 3-2 in the QF. Also scored the decisive penalty to defeat Atltico Madrid in the final.
2017 Scored 5 goals over 2 games including a second leg hat trick to advance past Bayern Munich in the QF.
Follows that up with a hat trick in the next game against Atltico in the SF. Then scores twice in the final against Juventus to win man of the match.
2018 Ronaldo vs Juventus. Scores one of the greatest goals in the history of the sport. Also steps up and converts a clutch penalty in the 90+8' to send the team to the semifinals. Also let's remember that no team had ever won back to back champions leagues ever until Ronaldo did it 3 times in a row.
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snowdog90 said:

Truvada_for_prep said:

Ronaldo was the reason Protugal got to the final of the Euros.


Messi was the reason Argentina got to the world cup final.


Wait when he succeeds it's him but when he loses it's the team? I'm starting to understand now!
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Some real mental gymnastics by Ronaldo fans in this thread. Ronaldo will never be the player Messi is. Ronaldo lost to Ajax obviously that alone confirms he's not the best player in the world. Let's ignore goals per game, assists per game, etc. Ronaldo lost to Ajax which means he's a worse player in his career than Divock Origi and James Milner #logic.
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The messi fan boys are pissed dude is a choke artist in big games .
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Truvada_for_prep said:

The messi fan boys are pissed dude is a choke artist in big games .


You're right he's never done anything in big games before. Like make Real Madrid his ***** in head to head matchups, or scoring goals in champions league finals or other big games. Not even once.

Here's a classic single game example where Messi totally choked and Ronaldo definitely carried his team:

Guess that settles it. That one game happened. Or does El Classico at the Bernabeu not count as a big game? Seriously, some of the dumbest critical thinking skills in this thread.

Ronaldo, for all his greatness, honestly belongs in prison, Messi belongs in a league of his own. Have fun with screaming the typical mindless garbage Ronaldo fans typically do. Messi will always be the greatest goal scorer and assister there ever was - and he isn't even a pure striker.
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Truvada_for_prep said:

The messi fan boys are pissed dude is a choke artist in big games .

Well, he did have that wonder goal tap-in to make the Copa del Rey interesting yesterday. From treble to terrible for Barca. VAMOS!
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Gordo14 said:

Truvada_for_prep said:

The messi fan boys are pissed dude is a choke artist in big games .


You're right he's never done anything in big games before. Like make Real Madrid his ***** in head to head matchups, or scoring goals in champions league finals or other big games. Not even once.

Here's a classic single game example where Messi totally choked and Ronaldo definitely carried his team:

Guess that settles it. That one game happened. Or does El Classico at the Bernabeu not count as a big game? Seriously, some of the dumbest critical thinking skills in this thread.

Ronaldo, for all his greatness, honestly belongs in prison, Messi belongs in a league of his own. Have fun with screaming the typical mindless garbage Ronaldo fans typically do. Messi will always be the greatest goal scorer and assister there ever was - and he isn't even a pure striker.
Technically they both belong in prison...

Lionel Messi tax fraud prison sentence reduced to fine
Truvada_for_prep
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Damm the goat cant even win the Copa Del Rey. LULZ

Messi fan boys must be pissed.
snowdog90
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And yet he should still win another ballon dor and most likely will.
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It's hard to find Ronaldo in that mess of people.

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AustinAg2012 said:

Truvada_for_prep said:

The messi fan boys are pissed dude is a choke artist in big games .

Well, he did have that wonder goal tap-in to make the Copa del Rey interesting yesterday. From treble to terrible for Barca. VAMOS!


The team and coach let him down again. I mean it's not like they were passing up shots inside the box for Messi take them instead, right?
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aTmAg said:

It's hard to find Ronaldo in that mess of people.




Big chances created? What is that? Losing at least one game by 3+ goals in a home and away series?
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Definition:

A 'big chance created' is defined as providing an opportunity where the receiving player would reasonably be expected to score and manages to get a shot away. These usually in occur in one-on-one scenarios or from very close range.

Sorry, dude, Messi is simply better than Ronaldo. And it's not as close as pathetic Ronaldo fan boys wish.
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aTmAg said:

Definition:

A 'big chance created' is defined as providing an opportunity where the receiving player would reasonably be expected to score and manages to get a shot away. These usually in occur in one-on-one scenarios or from very close range.

Sorry, dude, Messi is simply better than Ronaldo. And it's not as close as pathetic Ronaldo fan boys wish.


Pathetic like using a metric other than assists for comparison (as another way to blame Messi's teammates for the numbers not showing up)?
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AGC said:

aTmAg said:

Definition:

A 'big chance created' is defined as providing an opportunity where the receiving player would reasonably be expected to score and manages to get a shot away. These usually in occur in one-on-one scenarios or from very close range.

Sorry, dude, Messi is simply better than Ronaldo. And it's not as close as pathetic Ronaldo fan boys wish.


Pathetic like using a metric other than assists for comparison (as another way to blame Messi's teammates for the numbers not showing up)?
Ironic.. Messi without assists still has more goals than Ronaldo

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So what? I'm not a Ronaldo fan.
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RM fan then? Only one or the other would explain your irrational Messi hatred.

I'm sorry he has owned your team for over a decade. But his GOAT status is pretty much undeniable now.
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Damn Ronaldo did it again. Scores a hat trick for Portugal over Switzerland to head to the Nations League Final.

Dude is the best pure goal scorer I've ever seen.
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Damn, he completes his hat trick in the 88' and 89' minutes to win the game for Portugal.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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Your boner for Messi is creepy, bruh. It's actually sad. Get help.
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Great goal, but let's not forget Ronaldo hadn't scored a free kick in over a year. People like to believe he's still an incredible free kick scorer when in reality he's pretty terrible at them now
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I was pulling for the Swiss because I'm a big Shaqiri fan and I swear they were the better team...but they don't have a Ronaldo.
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Should have had an assist too

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AustinAg2012 said:

Your boner for Messi is creepy, bruh. It's actually sad. Get help.
No boner here. Just correctly pointing him out as the GOAT.
Truvada_for_prep
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The goat wins another trophy for his country ..Messi not so much .
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aTmAg said:

AustinAg2012 said:

Your boner for Messi is creepy, bruh. It's actually sad. Get help.
No boner here. Just correctly pointing him out as the GOAT.

Another stinker for the so-called GOAT today. Yikes.
Truvada_for_prep
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LOL at the midget was a total non factor in a big game.
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I feel like it's time to bump the thread. GOAT still doing great at juve.

Messi either has a lingering injury or he's on his way to super sub (minus the super). He's come in second half the past two games with goals needed and failed to deliver.
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AGC said:

I feel like it's time to bump the thread. GOAT still doing great at juve.

Messi either has a lingering injury or he's on his way to super sub (minus the super). He's come in second half the past two games with goals needed and failed to deliver.
Timing on the bump is a little weird...

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