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USMNT Loses J. Gonzalez to Mexio
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I think this is far more about the fact that the US won't be playing in the 2018 WC and doesn't have a coach than some failure of leadership or him not being invited to the October friendlies.
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Knew it was gonna happen the moment we didn't make the World Cup.
I don't blame him. We're flat out not an attractive option right now.
My only hope is that we get our act together by the time another big decision like this comes up.
My only hope is that we get our act together by the time another big decision like this comes up.
Agree the biggest reason is probably missing the World Cup, but if true, it is completely unacceptable to have zero communication with a player of this magnitude and in this situation.
ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Agree the biggest reason is probably missing the World Cup, but if true, it is completely unacceptable to have zero communication with a player of this magnitude and in this situation.
I read that the other day and knew he was gone. Sucks but I thought our young guys looked good against Portugal. If he does t want to play here than whatever. We have enough young talent to build around and I think the US is finally going to play with a chip on their shoulder like 20 years ago.
If wanting to play in the 2018 World Cup regardless of what country you're playing for is more important than helping the USMNT get to the 2022 World Cup, and representing the US during that effort, then good riddance.
Maybe it's a bit naive and ideological, but I'd rather have the players representing our country be willing to risk never playing in the World Cup (clearly 2022 isn't guaranteed) if they can't play it in wearing the USA jersey. I'm also aware that we may have some dual citizens on our team may have chosen the to play for the US because it was the most sure way for them to play in a World Cup. I also realize that Gonzalez has lived in Mexico since he was 14, so he clearly has ties to the country. I have no idea about his family history/culture and if his parents/grandparents grew up cheering for El Tri. But if missing U-20 World Cup and a pointless friendly are enough to make him want to choose Mexico over the US, then good riddance.
Maybe it's a bit naive and ideological, but I'd rather have the players representing our country be willing to risk never playing in the World Cup (clearly 2022 isn't guaranteed) if they can't play it in wearing the USA jersey. I'm also aware that we may have some dual citizens on our team may have chosen the to play for the US because it was the most sure way for them to play in a World Cup. I also realize that Gonzalez has lived in Mexico since he was 14, so he clearly has ties to the country. I have no idea about his family history/culture and if his parents/grandparents grew up cheering for El Tri. But if missing U-20 World Cup and a pointless friendly are enough to make him want to choose Mexico over the US, then good riddance.
ColoradoMooseHerd said:
Agree the biggest reason is probably missing the World Cup, but if true, it is completely unacceptable to have zero communication with a player of this magnitude and in this situation.
The couple of articles I read mentioned that USA had reached out several times (Ramos and Rongen, among others), but were ultimately ignored.
Not qualifying was probably the final straw, but I bet his family and friends were doing their best to influence him to pick El Tri.
No president
No coach
No World Cup
No direction
We are not a real attractive option at this time for those that have options.
No coach
No World Cup
No direction
We are not a real attractive option at this time for those that have options.
So how good is this kid? As I understand it, he was the most likely to replace Bradley at defensive mid. Do we have Bradley's replacement on our team now or do we just have the guy who is going to take his place when he retires?
No WC, no Go-Go.
jay040 said:
If wanting to play in the 2018 World Cup regardless of what country you're playing for is more important than helping the USMNT get to the 2022 World Cup, and representing the US during that effort, then good riddance.
Maybe it's a bit naive and ideological, but I'd rather have the players representing our country be willing to risk never playing in the World Cup (clearly 2022 isn't guaranteed) if they can't play it in wearing the USA jersey. I'm also aware that we may have some dual citizens on our team may have chosen the to play for the US because it was the most sure way for them to play in a World Cup. I also realize that Gonzalez has lived in Mexico since he was 14, so he clearly has ties to the country. I have no idea about his family history/culture and if his parents/grandparents grew up cheering for El Tri. But if missing U-20 World Cup and a pointless friendly are enough to make him want to choose Mexico over the US, then good riddance.
If you want to dump the guys that chose us over someone else solely because our World Cup prospects were higher, I can respect that consistency.
But if you're fine with those guys and angry at this situation, I'm not really sure that's a realistic approach.
I'm just acknowledging that I'm aware it exists. I didn't say it doesn't bother me.Quote:
If you want to dump the guys that chose us over someone else solely because our World Cup prospects were higher, I can respect that consistency.
But if you're fine with those guys and angry at this situation, I'm not really sure that's a realistic approach.
I think the Federation just dropped the ball with this kid the last couple years. He's been in our system the whole time, but that doesn't mean you don't still make him feel wanted.
I saw a tweet this morning that we only have ONE full time scout and many part time.scouts
How is this possible
I saw a tweet this morning that we only have ONE full time scout and many part time.scouts
How is this possible
Yawn
PatAg said:
https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76356/brad-rothenberg-our-federation-lost-jonathan-gon.html
Interesting viewpoint, but I feel like there's something off about the tone of the interview.
Timothy Tillman switching from Germany to U.S. Way to be, TT.
Yea, I would agree with that its definitely a little too biased towards the quality of the org. I just personally didn't even know that the org existed, and it's a really interesting notion. It does seem like our national team has been pretty underrepresented by latino players considering the demographics of our population. We know US soccer, and MLS, both struggle to identify all the talent out there (not just latino, any races really) just due to the size of the nation.aggie kid said:PatAg said:
https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76356/brad-rothenberg-our-federation-lost-jonathan-gon.html
Interesting viewpoint, but I feel like there's something off about the tone of the interview.
AND NOW MEXICO HAS STOLEN LANDON DONOVAN AWAY FROM US!!!
The Alamo and Goliad have just occurred with the losses of Gonzales and Donovan...I believe the 2019 Gold Cup with be our Battle of San Jacinto.
REMEMBER THE ALAMO REMEMBER GOLIAD
REMEMBER THE ALAMO REMEMBER GOLIAD
I know we shouldn't, but can we please call Landon Donovan up for one game so he can play with Pulisic
How does that work? when players jump ship to another country? Are they allowed to go back and forth?
I understand that it wouldnt look good if players did that often, but would he be allowed back?
I understand that it wouldnt look good if players did that often, but would he be allowed back?
aznaggiegirl07 said:
How does that work? when players jump ship to another country? Are they allowed to go back and forth?
I understand that it wouldnt look good if players did that often, but would he be allowed back?
As far as soccer goes, they submit a one-time switch to the new country.
J. Gonzalez not named to the Mexico preliminary WC roster. Whoops!
jeffk said:
J. Gonzalez not named to the Mexico preliminary WC roster. Whoops!
Same result
Pretty interesting that they got him to flip and then this happens.
wangus12 said:
I know we shouldn't, but can we please call Landon Donovan up for one game so he can play with Pulisic
And give him a PK so he surpassed Dempsey?
I want to see the LA Galaxy hire Jurgen Klinsmann so that he and Bob Bradley face off three times a year in MLS. Would be hilarious.
Plus he couldn't do much worse than Sigi is right now.
Plus he couldn't do much worse than Sigi is right now.
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