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Some more NIL recruiting questions

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Southlake
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Off season and I'm still wrapping my mind around the ramifications of NIL as we know it today - except I'm still learning a ton. You guys are really up on this stuff so let me ask you some stuff:

Are all NIL contracts for only one year? Can you sign a player to more than one year?

NIL deals can be made for incoming high school players as well as established players on other teams?

When can you recruit players from other teams?

When can you actively recruit high school players to a NIL contract? When can high school players start to receive NIL money?

There is no "salary cap" for NIL players, correct?

What would you guess the recruiting strategy is for recruiting now. Do you spend more in high school players not knowing how they will pan out and possibly be gone after one year?

How about recruiting established players? Are there actual "bidding wars" for players?

Who decides what players we are going after? Obviously, the Coacher and recruiters, but how much input would you imagine donors have now that their money goes directly to players?

Would you think that focusing most of your recruiting on established players who are proven and older would be your prime goals? Look how great KC and Craver did - they had already panned out at the college level.

A few years ago, App State and Colorado's o-lines beat us up pretty bad. Both their o- lines wee full of seniors and 5th year seniors. Would you imagine recruiting seasoned, older and more experienced offensive linemen to be more critical?

Please jump in with your viewpoints on this stuff. I appreciate how deeply some of you guys understand this stuff.

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greg.w.h
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Southlake said:

Off season and I'm still wrapping my mind around the ramifications of NIL as we know it today - except I'm still learning a ton. You guys are really up on this stuff so let me ask you some stuff:

Are all NIL contracts for only one year? Can you sign a player to more than one year?

NIL deals can be made for incoming high school players as well as established players on other teams?

When can you recruit players from other teams?

When can you actively recruit high school players to a NIL contract? When can high school players start to receive NIL money?

There is no "salary cap" for NIL players, correct?

What would you guess the recruiting strategy is for recruiting now. Do you spend more in high school players not knowing how they will pan out and possibly be gone after one year?

How about recruiting established players? Are there actual "bidding wars" for players?

Who decides what players we are going after? Obviously, the Coacher and recruiters, but how much input would you imagine donors have now that their money goes directly to players?

Would you think that focusing most of your recruiting on established players who are proven and older would be your prime goals? Look how great KC and Craver did - they had already panned out at the college level.

A few years ago, App State and Colorado's o-lines beat us up pretty bad. Both their o- lines wee full of seniors and 5th year seniors. Would you imagine recruiting seasoned, older and more experienced offensive linemen to be more critical?

Please jump in with your viewpoints on this stuff. I appreciate how deeply some of you guys understand this stuff.


No cap on a student athlete privately contracting with a legitimate sponsor for a representation contract but it must be disclosed to the school and reviewed by the College Sports Commission. And there should never be a cap since NIL is ip belongs to the student athlete though NCAA used to encourage schools to contract with student athletes to use that IP without meaningful compensation.

The public has almost zero insight into the contract specifics but the school should have access to all of it.

Texas may limit contact with high school students for the sake of NIL representation/use. Not sure if the NCAA attempts to regulate that but historically that discussion was a violation.

My guess is the strategy is to combine all recruiting sources and pick for a combination of longer-term development of new high school grads and full known needs with already developed transfers. I would hope we evaluate each for immediate contribution and use that to judge both internal payments and to the extent that we influence external NIL. But the school interfering with contracts with external NIL partners is a huge question mark.

I don't know that we ought to mimic someone else. Let's see where this goes this year instead of meddling.
Southlake
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https://chatgpt.com/share/6a22fb6f-76c4-83ea-8b32-8676ce1f1d91


So, I'm just kinda getting into the AI thing so I asked Chat GPT the same questions. Pretty interesting answers but not at all surprising.

Interesting the comment on seasoned O-linemen being the more valuable players
greg.w.h
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Southlake said:

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a22fb6f-76c4-83ea-8b32-8676ce1f1d91


So, I'm just kinda getting into the AI thing so I asked Chat GPT the same questions. Pretty interesting answers but not at all surprising.

Interesting the comment on seasoned Zo-lineman being the more valuable players
Oline takes longest to develop.
WallyWonka
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If I'm not mistaken, Indiana's roster was full of transfers-four- and five-year seniors.

Again, when you have a year to red-shirt, your body matures and football IQ matures, too, especially if you're a late bloomer.
BMX Bandit
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This is what is supposed to happen, not necessarily what actually happens:


Are all NIL contracts for only one year? No Can you sign a player to more than one year? Yes

NIL deals can be made for incoming high school players as well as established players on other teams? yes

When can you recruit players from other teams? No. Only if in the portal

When can you actively recruit high school players to a NIL contract? Any time When can high school players start to receive NIL money? depends on state law

There is no "salary cap" for NIL players, correct? No cap on third party deals. Revenue sharing is capped

What would you guess the recruiting strategy is for recruiting now. Do you spend more in high school players not knowing how they will pan out and possibly be gone after one year?you better have a mix of both. Most depth will need to come from traditional recruiting, then supplement with key needs

How about recruiting established players? Are there actual "bidding wars" for players? yes

Who decides what players we are going after? coaches and GMs Obviously, the Coacher and recruiters, but how much input would you imagine donors have now that their money goes directly to players? if you want to be a good program, then your donors should have no say. Same as with traditional recruiting

Would you think that focusing most of your recruiting on established players who are proven and older would be your prime goals? again, better focus on bothLook how great KC and Craver did - they had already panned out at the college level.

A few years ago, App State and Colorado's o-lines beat us up pretty bad. Both their o- lines wee full of seniors and 5th year seniors. Would you imagine recruiting seasoned, older and more experienced offensive linemen to be more critical?definitely


Indiana is an anomaly because lots of the "Transfers" came from JMU with Cignetti. Those were guys he recruited from the start and came over to a bad indiana team. you need that base with key transfer additions like Indiana had to fill important needs. The only way to "copy" Indiana is to hire a new coach and have him bring everyone, then add a heisman winner, etc.
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