He's better than the overrated Vince Young in every category besides championship defenses yet you won't find him above him on any lists

Sammy Baugh
Danny Wuerffel
Roger Staubach
Peyton Manning
JFF

I would put those top 5 against any other top 5

People can bring up the "no natty" and I get it. I'll add, no other QB had the ability to make a play like Johnny did.

He's the best college QB I've ever seen. Ever. Better than Tebow, Burrow, Young, Newton.

He lead the SEC in rushing in 2012, as a QB, in a spread offense, in a run first conference. With a team that was mediocre at best all things considered. He also broke the sec record for combined rushing and passing yards. If you put him on a stronger team they win the national championship. We almost did with him.

JFF was a great college football QB but lacked the whole team he needed to win a conference or national championship.

Then pissed it all away.

watched every snap. not sure how you could expect anyone to do better.

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He's the best college QB I've ever seen. Ever. Better than Tebow, Burrow, Young, Newton.

He lead the SEC in rushing in 2012, as a QB, in a spread offense, in a run first conference. With a team that was mediocre at best all things considered. He also broke the sec record for combined rushing and passing yards. If you put him on a stronger team they win the national championship. We almost did with him.

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Sip here. Yes, Manziel is the best college QB I've ever seen. He had phenomenal pocket presence and was more elusive than Fran Tarkenton, and with 4.5 speed could ridiculously exploit even very good defenses. He racked up video game stats while playing in the toughest division of the toughest conference. It's not his fault Aggie defenses were terrible.

If I were creating an all-time best college football team, Manziel would be my starting qb....if it could be guaranteed that he would stay sober at least 4 days a week.

I'd say Johnny is close but Tommie Frazier is the best I've seen. Michael Vick may be better too.

I forgot about Joe Burrow. He absolutely had the best single season in CFB history. His first year at LSU was meh.

No, I don't think Johnny Manziel is the best QB in college football history, but he is definitely among the 10 greatest in college football history. I hate to say it, but I think Joe Burrow is the greatest college QB of all time. In 2019, Burrow became the first player in SEC history to throw for 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns in a season and also set the NCAA single-season record for touchdown passes with 60 and total touchdowns with 65 in leading LSU to a 15-0 national championship season.

With that said, I think Johnny Manziel is the greatest ever Texas A&M football player. His stardom helped catalyze donor enthusiasm, fueling the $485 million Kyle Field renovation and elevating Texas A&M's recruiting profile. He not only won games, but he single-handedly transformed Texas A&M from an SEC newcomer to a nationally relevant powerhouse.

In his freshman year in 2012, he completed 68.0% of his attempts for 26 touchdown passes against 9 interceptions for a 155.3 QB rating on his way to becoming the first freshman to win the Heisman. In 2013, he completed 69.9% of his passes for 37 touchdown passes against 13 interceptions for a 172.0 QB rating. We lost 4 games in 2013 because our defense struggled. We allowed 31+ points in 8 games, and we won 5 of those 8 games because of Johnny Manziel.

However, Manziel became an NFL bust because he never watched a second of tape to prepare for NFL games.

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fightintxaggie10 said:

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He's the best college QB I've ever seen. Ever. Better than Tebow, Burrow, Young, Newton.

He lead the SEC in rushing in 2012, as a QB, in a spread offense, in a run first conference. With a team that was mediocre at best all things considered. He also broke the sec record for combined rushing and passing yards. If you put him on a stronger team they win the national championship. We almost did with him.

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Sip here. Yes, Manziel is the best college QB I've ever seen. He had phenomenal pocket presence and was more elusive than Fran Tarkenton, and with 4.5 speed could ridiculously exploit even very good defenses. He racked up video game stats while playing in the toughest division of the toughest conference. It's not his fault Aggie defenses were terrible.

If I were creating an all-time best college football team, Manziel would be my starting qb....if it could be guaranteed that he would stay sober at least 4 days a week.

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Our defense finished 59th in total defense (390.2 yards allowed per game) and 26th in scoring defense (21.77 points allowed per game) in 2012, but it declined to 109th (475.8 yards allowed per game) and 96th in scoring defense (32.23 points allowed per game in 2013. We lost 4 games in 2013 because our defense struggled. We allowed 31+ points in 8 games, and we won 5 of those 8 games because of Johnny Manziel.

Yea

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Roger Staubach.

He was Johnny before Johnny.

Would've won 2 Heismans had he not been injured his senior year.

But I'd say it's those 2

Side note: Staubach also lettered in all 3 major men's sports during his 4 years at Navy. Scouts said he was good enough to go pro in all 3.

After Bo Jackson, Roger may have been the best college athlete ever

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Bo Jackson and then Jim Brown says hi

i am not sure if johnny football is the best but i don't k ow of many quarterbacks who changed the game so much in a short period of time. no qbs threw sidearm to wideouts to get the ball out quicker before johnny did it. he did so many things that are copie today and gets no credit. even at the pro level. you can't tell me johnny football didn't have a huge influence in the way patrick mahms plays.

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No. I dont think so.

Tim Tebow
Vince
Tommy Frazier
Cam Newtown
Matr Leinart
Joe burrow
Ken dorsey
Charlie ward

Those are off the top of my head

Johnny is an all time great but I dont think you can put him at the top of the list

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Ken Dorsey would take us to 8-4 this year

It's weird to say this and it may not make sense: he was the greatest college football player of all time. But, I don't think he was the greatest QB of all time. His skills as a true qb were nothing crazy special, but he had field speed and vision like no one I've ever seen.

Johnny is my favorite…but Joe Burrow in 2019 was better

No, but close

I don't think he is top 20.

What did he do that Doug Flutie didnt do 30 years earlier. They had the EXACT same career except JFF was on a team loaded with future NFL guys and flutie was alone.

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It's weird to say this and it may not make sense: he was the greatest college football player of all time. But, I don't think he was the greatest QB of all time. His skills as a true qb were nothing crazy special, but he had field speed and vision like no one I've ever seen.

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Kinda like the LeBron v Jordan debate.

Jordan is the goat. Its abundantly clear to me.

But, lebron might very be the best basketball player of all time.


If im choosing a team to play for me, Johnny would be pick 1. But, I domt think he was the best college qb ever.

Now do Johnny without Evans. Still think he's the best?

No, but if the criteria were "you get to choose one college QB for one game", he's at least kind of in the discussion.

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Roger Staubach.

He was Johnny before Johnny.

Would've won 2 Heismans had he not been injured his senior year.

But I'd say it's those 2

Side note: Staubach also lettered in all 3 major men's sports during his 4 years at Navy. Scouts said he was good enough to go pro in all 3.

After Bo Jackson, Roger may have been the best college athlete ever

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Did you even read the entire post?

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Jason Stegent said:

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Roger Staubach.

He was Johnny before Johnny.

Would've won 2 Heismans had he not been injured his senior year.

But I'd say it's those 2

Side note: Staubach also lettered in all 3 major men's sports during his 4 years at Navy. Scouts said he was good enough to go pro in all 3.

After Bo Jackson, Roger may have been the best college athlete ever

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Bo Jackson and then Jim Brown says hi

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Did you even read the entire post?

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I think they skipped the title

Most likely the great Freshman qb all-time.

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Now do Johnny without Evans. Still think he's the best?

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think passes to evans only accounted for like 15% of his total yards

idk, but the johnny was only johnny because of evans is ridiculous.

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I don't think he is top 20.

What did he do that Doug Flutie didnt do 30 years earlier. They had the EXACT same career except JFF was on a team loaded with future NFL guys and flutie was alone.

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Both white shifty QBs. That's about where the comparison ends. Johnny's tape blows Flutie's out of the water. Very different QBs. Honestly not really any great comparisons to JFF. Dude had a style that we've never seen before or since.

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Now do Johnny without Evans. Still think he's the best?

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How about you do the same for everybody you'd put in front of him. No one worth mentioning has ever done it alone.

Besides maybe Cam Newton lol

In CFB yes, and I was in the stands watching Archie Manning at Ole Miss. And in the Bama 2012 game he was targeting Swope and Kennedy, not so much to Evans.

Johnny Manziel
Marcus Vick
Lamar Jackson
Jamelle Holloway
These to me are my top four big play college quarterbacks!

He just cracks the top 10.

Top 5 all time

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Now do Johnny without Evans. Still think he's the best?

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Can you imagine giving Johnny a top 50 defense? Please

He was the best. Period. I wish I had a heart emoji thing.

Yes

Cast a vote for Steve McNair