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The Alabama fan base in the first year of Saban's replacement, the same fans who have been treated to three national championships in the last ten years are now booing their team. Apparently a fan base that wants to win championships doesn't settle for anything less than championships.

I think Aggie fans in the 1930's must have been more like Bama fans than our current crop of sunshine pumpers.

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BTHOB-98
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What is the point of this post op?
Emilio Fantastico
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Cranky old man yelling at clouds
vander54
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Big difference is they've won multiple titles in the past 10 years. How many have we won in the past 80 years?
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Bill Superman
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First off, we don't boo our own team.

Second, not even bama fan is dumb enough to boo their team when playing for a bid to the SEC championship game.
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What was DeBoer thinking?

You never replace a legend. You replace the guy who replaced the legend. He will be gone before his third season ends.
The Banned
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its a fine line. Overall I don't like booing your own team. But in the era when 50+% of your roster would leave the team if they could get a better deal elsewhere, I can see why people would have less "support the team no matter what" feels
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Booing is the secret weapon, you've figured it out.
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GigEmReggie said:

Booing is the secret weapon, you've figured it out.


The "super secret weapon" is throwing water bottles to get your way!
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BTHOB-98 said:

What is the point of this post op?


Just an observation.
But mostly I am tired of the thread police sticking their nose where it doesn't
belong. These sanctimonius self important know it alls pop into threads and don't offer a counter argument but only offer a negative comment about the poster who has deigned to make a negative comment about the sacred team.
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Bill Superman said:

First off, we don't boo our own team.

Second, not even bama fan is dumb enough to boo their team when playing for a bid to the SEC championship game.


Not sure if it's happened since but in the Fran era there was definitely some booing.
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There was booing at the 2011 t.u. game, and probably a few other times.
PanzerAggie06
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First time I definitely remember hearing booing at Kyle was in 2005 when Iowa State came in town and curb stomped us 42-14.
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Totally agree…..if our fans booed more we definitely would win a natty. Makes complete sense. J/K fan tolerance/intolerance has nothing to do with it. Recruiting, NIL and coaching are the keys. They've earned the right to control their own destiny by winning. Not many teams in that position. I'll take it without booing.
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OP's premise ain't wrong

Doesn't mean we should boo, tho
vander54
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

OP's premise ain't wrong

Doesn't mean we should boo, tho


It's flawed

Bama is established we are working on getting to that point. Bama expects to win every year. Anyone that expects that here is delusional.

Doesn't mean we can't / won't get there but we aren't there yet.
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Haleyscomet50
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They are booing Milroe and Deboer decision to keep playing him.
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geoag58 said:

The Alabama fan base in the first year of Saban's replacement, the same fans who have been treated to three national championships in the last ten years are now booing their team. Apparently a fan base that wants to win championships doesn't settle for anything less than championships.

I think Aggie fans in the 1930's must have been more like Bama fans than our current crop of sunshine pumpers.


The notion it takes ten years to win an NC is false. But short of infinite money the notion any school can turn around a program with the right coach in a single year is specious.

I don't think we even need to discuss firing Elko or booing him. And DeBoer was like Texas if succeeded in luring Nick Saban or even Chris Petersen to Austin. A notionally spectacular hire.

The key is this point is anyone who thinks you will win NCs with a Cignetti or three star talent and great coaching is highly unlikely to be correct based on many variations of attempting something similar.

We hired Jimbo because he promised he had a process like Saban's. He proved he was clowning us but his recruiting wasn't bad (feel free to say otherwise…don't care.)
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Have bama fans tried complaining on message boards?
Divining Rod
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and of course you'd be dead wrong. those guys likely laughed at fans like you- or worse.
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PanzerAggie06 said:

What was DeBoer thinking?

You never replace a legend. You replace the guy who replaced the legend. He will be gone before his third season ends.


Maybe we can scoop him up on the cheap at that time.
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BTHOB-98 said:

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The point is do you want a mediocre football program like ours has been the last 84+ years, or do you want a program that achieves multiple national championships like Alabama ? If we're ever going to get a Natty, it will not be with Elko or any of our current coaching staff; as I've posted before, all of them are mediocre (nothing personal against any of them, just based on their performance, past and present), and they will just continue our program of mediocrity.

As I've said multiple times on this forum, the time to start looking is now. Next year will be year 86 of mediocrity anyway, so no need to worry about it. Hire a professional college football head coach search firm, with the requirement that they provide us a list of the top 5 coaches most likely to win a Natty for us. Then, we select the top candidate and go after him. Only if we can't get him (e.g., money, won't move, etc.) do we go after #2 on the list.

Also, we take only the names we are given by the search firm, and do not filter it by any other criteria than the ability to lead us to a Natty. For instance, it doesn't matter if he's "a good guy", "gets us", "has personal issues" [i.e., Sark], or any other subjective criteria. Finally, do not allow any BMAs, "insiders", or any other Aggie football "influencer" to be part of the process.

Take whatever time is necessary to get the #1 person, and don't worry about next year, or even the next. Hell, it 's been 84+ years already, what's another 2 or 3 ? Just take the time and get it right, then make the hire !

Follow that up with having the professional college football search firm do a search for the best OC, DC, etc. Also get any recommendations from the new HC. Put the list together and have the search firm work with the new HC to identify the top 5 coaches for the OC and DC positions. Then start with #1 and hire him, moving on to #2, if necessary. As with the HC, it doesn't matter if he's "a good guy", "gets us", "has personal issues" [i.e., Sark], or any other subjective criteria. And again, do not allow any of the BMAs, "insiders", or any other Aggie football "influencer" to be part of the process.

What do we have to lose ? We tried multiple coaches and approaches over the past 84+ years, finding them on our own, and that hasn't worked !




The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
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Gunny456
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Give it about 5-6 more years and the booing will be blatant as another Aggie tradition dies.
spherical
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The people that say o ur "sunshine pumping" and "accepting mediocrity" is the reason we don't win… are the same people that say "posts on a message board don't affect the team or game"
SteveA
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Posts on a message board don't have anything to do with making a team win. Sunshine pumping just sell texags subscriptions.
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