beerad12man said:
aunuwyn08 said:
Oh boy 7-9 win year 6. Then a rebuilding year in year 7.
Should have just kept Sumlin with these pathetic results.
Why would year 7 be rebuilding? The most talented class on campus right now are sophomores. Most should still be here in 2024 unless we fall apart, and they transfer out. Maybe that could happen at 7-5, but that won't happen at 9-3.
There is a huge, huge difference between 7 and 9 wins. So, you may want to separate those. 9-3 regular season would be a very, very good regular season. 7-5 would be utter disappointment. However, at 9-3, we would need to win a bowl game to really feel better. 10-3 is kind of that benchmark.
Also, not that it matters, but Sumlin was trending to being a 56-win coach here. After year 1, he never sniffed 9 wins, and got further removed from that possibility by the day. Fisher had an awful year 5, but his years 1-4 were much better than Sumlin would have produced from 2018-2021. It was going downhill fast, and that is more evident by Arizona. If Fisher goes 9-3, he will completely separate himself as better than Sumlin. If he goes 6-6, well then we are right back to where we were. Big year for him.
Through 5 seasons, Sumlin had a better record - full stop. Sumlin and Fisher won 3 bowls (same caliber of wins as well).
Sumlin had more players drafted in the first round than Fisher. Fisher has recruited better than Sumlin (not a positive given his performance).
You can talk about trends all you want, but this is the cold hard truth. Fisher lost his recruiting shine now, can't fill critical roster positions with blue chip talent, and is struggling to bring in a top 10 class this year. That's not good given he's recruited better than any coach at a&m and still can't do better than 8 wins.
Further, Sumlin never had a losing season, even with massive drama in his roster. Fisher managed to pilot one of the most talented a&m teams in history to 5 wins including a home loss to App St and road loss to an interim coach on a putrid Auburn team. In the off-season we fired his yes man OC and replaced him with a G5 retread, and called it good. No other coaching changes.
Sumlin didn't have benefit of NIL or transfer portal, but Fisher does and either cannot or refuses to adapt to make it work for us.
Fisher is a dread man walking in the eyes of our competition and recruits, and if he doesn't make a move on the field this year this program is going to be buried for years.
8 wins is not the standard for a program that wants to say it's competing for championships. Down year expectations should be 10-3. We're just posers with a lot of money.