Iowaggie said:
Aggieair said:
Iowaggie said:
Aggieair said:
Iowaggie said:
greg.w.h said:
Rose and Sugar host the quarterfinal round each year and don't host a semifinal round either year. Other four (Peach & Fiesta paired, Cotton & Orange paired) get one semi and one quarter in each year. Final round is contracted to Atlanta (Peach site) in 2024 and Miami (Orange site) in 2025.
This is the biggest BS of the new format.
Every game, except the championship game, should be a college campus to emphasize how much the regular season matters and get rid of supporting Bowl games in NFL and destination cities and their tourism dollars.
Not all college stadiums are that big. Fewer tickets would be sold and the available seats would be even more expensive. Also, think about having to play a semifinal game in January in a blizzard in a northern state in a college campus open-air stadium.
The first round being played on college campuses is a good compromise.
Maybe Jerryworld is bigger than some college football stadiums, but most pro stadiums hold less than college stadiums, significantly less, and is easy to restrict if this really was the case (require at least 60,000 seats, but it can't be much more than that because that soon eliminates the Orange Bowl at 67K.). For example, if Houston would host a playoff game, they have to play in the Texans stadium (NRG).
It makes no financial sense to have the fans of Michigan and Georgia travel down to Miami for a playoff game.
Michigan's stadium is 107K, Georgia's is 93K, and Miami's is 67K, and all, instead of half, the fans would have had to travel. And the college atmosphere is 10 times better.
But more importantly, neutral site games de-value the regular season. Home field advantage retains the value of the regular season and rewards college towns. These expanded playoffs should be doing all they can to retain the value of the regular season.
Lol it makes a lot of financial sense, since the Orange Bowl pays to host a CFP game and Georgia and Michigan don't.
Again, you're ignoring that your argument would likely have a blizzard game at the Big House in early January. People generally want to see football played in optimum conditions for quarterfinal and semifinal games.
There's 43 Power 5 programs that have stadiums smaller than Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. Allowing the couple dozen or so programs that have stadiums bigger than that to host quarterfinal and semifinal games is just going to further the narrative of the have's getting more while the have-not's getting less.
Also, hosting a game is going to mean tickets are way more expensive. This will become cost-prohibitive for students. It's not going to be the same normal gameday environment that you're thinking of.
First, the neutral sites negate the value of the regular season. You may try to make to make another poor argument like your other neutral site argument, but there isn't. You want to increase or maintain the value of the regular season, let the home team host, not send them to a neutral site, or worse, send them to a site that favors the lower seed. If A&M is higher seed than LSU and they play each other, it shouldn't be in New Orleans, it should be at Kyle.
Second - those 43 P5 programs that have a stadium smaller than Hard Rock...yeah, I addressed that in the previous post. Put a minimum size on the host stadium, and then in the very unlikely event you are suggesting like a Duke or Wake Forest hosting a playoff game, they already have a pre-determined partner lined up, like BOA stadium in Charlotte.
Third - Those neutral site stadiums & cities aren't charities. If they are paying to host, it means they either expect to get a return on the tickets, the tourism & tax revenue, or the sponsorship. Or some combo of all 3. The sponsorship is going with the audience for that game, wherever it is played. The tourism & tax revenue should be going to college towns and the surrounding area.
Selling 26K-40K more tickets at a college stadium at the same or higher ticket price does bring in much more revenue. And yes, you're right, those tickets are going to be a lot more expensive because demand will be very high at a college site. There is more demand for the tickets, and even if the same number of students don't get tickets, it is still a better home crowd atmosphere than a neutral site game. If A&M got to host a playoff game versus Michigan, Kyle FIeld with one-third the number of students is still a better atmosphere than playing in Phoenix.
And the cold weather argument is such a Nancy statement. First, if you don't want to play in the cold, win your regular season games. They already are going to host first round games on campuses, but 7-14 days later it is too cold? Such a weak statement. Second, football is to be played in different conditions, and it is at all levels, but "It's cold outside" really a justification to not play a football game on Saturday when they will be playing on Sunday just down the road. Most importantly, if you don't want to play in the cold, win your games.
If you want to increase the value of regular season, you play the games at the higher seed's college stadium.
Telling people to "just win their games" if they want homefield advantage only works in the pro's where teams actually have enough different records or established tie breakers to determine who gets homefield advantage.
That doesn't exist in college. You could have two undefeated teams playing each other in a quarterfinal or semifinal game, and who gets homefield advantage is simply decided by whoever the committee liked more.
Again, you're ignoring that your system only benefits about 20 schools that have stadiums bigger or the same size as NFL stadiums. Hosting at an alternate site for the majority of those 43 schools does nothing for college town economies, which is supposed to be the whole point of your plan.
You used UH as an example, which is a bad one because Houston is not a college town. KSU would have to host their games 2 hours away in Missouri at Arrowhead Stadium. Baylor would have to host their games in AT&T Stadium in Arlington. Oklahoma State would have to go down to Arlington as well. Ole Miss and Mississippi State would have to go down to the Superdome in New Orleans. A team like Syracuse would have to go all the way down to MetLife Stadium in New Jersey. Iowa and ISU would have to travel all the way to Chicago or Minneapolis. WVU would have to go to Pittsburgh or Washington, D.C. Oregon, WSU, and Oregon State would all have to travel to Seattle. Utah and BYU would have to go all the way to either Denver or Phoenix. Same goes for any Group of 5 school that makes it past the first round and into the quarterfinals and semifinals.
