I am not sure how likely it is that she will get in the game, but IMO this is a bad idea. If there is a bad snap on a FG and she gets tackled by a LB or DL, the outcome might not be great. I know women have played as FG kicker before in college football, but I wouldn't want my daughter doing it.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30401770/vanderbilt-kicker-sarah-fuller-suit-vs-missouri-saturday-make-history

Have you seen some of the specialists? They aren't all Braden Mann tough. I would have no more worry for her than a scrawny guy kicker. That said, seems to be a double standard in place unless a guy could play on the women's soccer team.

She is probably bigger than a lot of kickers. She is 6'2"

If we're commenting on this, I would be perfectly fine with my daughter doing it, if she were in this position. I have no doubt in my mind a Division 1 women's goalie is as tough or tougher than most college kickers.

As if Vanderbilt's program isn't already enough of a clown show...

Difference is football isn't necessarily considered a men's sport offically. For example a woman couldn't play on the men's basketball team

Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

Texags Meltdown said:

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Difference is football isn't necessarily considered a men's sport offically. For example a woman couldn't play on the men's basketball team

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did not know that... does that help with title ix at all?

Just Tired said:

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Texags Meltdown said:

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Difference is football isn't necessarily considered a men's sport offically. For example a woman couldn't play on the men's basketball team

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did not know that... does that help with title ix at all?

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She's officially on a soccer schooly, so I don't think so.

Technically football is a co-ed sport. Title IX says if there's no women's version (soccer, basketball, etc) then it's co-ed.

BillgoCU said:

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Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

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At 6'2", she's as tall as the starter, who is 3 for freakin' 7 on field goals. All the other kickers are shorter. She's also the goal keeper for the soccer team. Not exactly a skinny 6'2". She can probably run through most of the posters on this board.

She's 6'2".

I don't understand the point. If she gets hit she's going to get hurt.

I'm 6'2". I'm 190. I'm 47.

If I told you that I was real tough bc I am 6'2" and I can take a hit from a college dude that can run a 4.6 weighing 220, you'd call me an idiot old man.

You'd be right, too.

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BillgoCU said:

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Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

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At 6'2", she's as tall as the starter, who is 3 for freakin' 7 on field goals. All the other kickers are shorter. She's also the goal keeper for the soccer team. Not exactly a skinny 6'2". She can probably run through most of the posters on this board.

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You are a goof ball. So mental. Who are you trying to impress with this lunacy?

BillgoCU said:

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Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

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1. Possibly not. Certainly not with consistency and accuracy, when the pressure is on. Those are skills honed over tens of thousands of reps... not hopping down out of the stands having never kicked since freshman year in HS.

2. As mentioned earlier, I would be no more worried for her than some of the other kickers. Pads are designed for a reason. If she gets hurt, I can PROMISE you she won't blame it on "the boys playing too rough". She knows the risks, just like every other player. She is an athlete, and I would bet she can take more of a hit than 90% of the posters on this forum.

3. I agree with this partially. It does change some dynamics. But focus, really? Are men really THAT weak, that a girl standing around in full pads (with a different group than 90% of the team) causes them to loose focus??? If a girl being around distracts the guys during a game, they are focused on the wrong things anyways. Cheerleaders don't seem to be a catastrophic problem.

And why would a girl being around change the way they talk? If the insinuation is that what they are talking about isn't appropriate- well, it's inappropriate regardless of who is around to hear it. None of that "locker room talk" contributes to the actual game play anyway. So, grow up, be a real man, get your job done the right way. These guys will have to work around women someday- time to leave that sophomoric BS behind. We need to quit making concessions and excuses for guys being immature *****s. Our society needs REAL men and women more than ever right now.

If I have interpreted any of your points wrongly, forgive me. That is just how they read for me.

I say let her play. There is no women's version of this sport for her to compete in. If she wants to test herself on this field, and can earn the spot in the coach's and team's eyes, I say bring it on! I hope she kicks a game winner.

Ian Neff said:

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Snap E Tom said:

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BillgoCU said:

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Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

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At 6'2", she's as tall as the starter, who is 3 for freakin' 7 on field goals. All the other kickers are shorter. She's also the goal keeper for the soccer team. Not exactly a skinny 6'2". She can probably run through most of the posters on this board.

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You are a goof ball. So mental. Who are you trying to impress with this lunacy?

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Not you, old man.

Anybody remember when Anika Sorenstam tried to play with the men? Her game off the tee was OK for the day and her iron play was darn good. She had no problem with the putting, but what I saw that made the real difference was the Wedge Game in the long grass. There is no finesse shot in that stuff, it's raw power.

Given the position, I don't have a problem with giving it a go. I even remember when there were some hairy legged dudes kicking that some special teams would try to take out of the game so they couldn't kick field goals.

I suppose that given the down and distance, why not. She good for a 50 yarder, who knows. Good for an Extra Point, most probably. Only low lives would take a cheap shot and if they did, I imagine it only would be once.

Man this is the **** show called 2020. The real challenge IMO for football is to lead the "Adapt and Overcome" mentality that does not exist in many of our fine leadership organizations.
Let's see what happens.

I hope she isn't doing kick-offs. I think that will increase her chances of getting hurt.

I understand that she is not built like a woman on the dance team, but she is also not accustomed to taking violent hits from super athletic men. I think she will be fine for 98% of FG attempts which I assume is ok with her. I think she should stay away from kick-offs.

Anyways, I hope the best for her. I was not trying to degrade her or insult her.

Eh give the lady a chance. Of she has a mule shoe and nails a few then keep her in. If not bench her same as a guy.

Girls lack the physical strength in their neck and back to absorb big hits.

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BillgoCU said:

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Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

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At 6'2", she's as tall as the starter, who is 3 for freakin' 7 on field goals. All the other kickers are shorter. She's also the goal keeper for the soccer team. Not exactly a skinny 6'2". She can probably run through most of the posters on this board.

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The ones on the field playing for the other team are not posters on this board. Her height is not relevant to her football playing. If she also handles kickoffs, we might get a chance to see what she can run through.

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Anybody remember when Anika Sorenstam tried to play with the men? Her game off the tee was OK for the day and her iron play was darn good. She had no problem with the putting, but what I saw that made the real difference was the Wedge Game in the long grass. There is no finesse shot in that stuff, it's raw power.

Given the position, I don't have a problem with giving it a go. I even remember when there were some hairy legged dudes kicking that some special teams would try to take out of the game so they couldn't kick field goals.

I suppose that given the down and distance, why not. She good for a 50 yarder, who knows. Good for an Extra Point, most probably. Only low lives would take a cheap shot and if they did, I imagine it only would be once.

Man this is the **** show called 2020. The real challenge IMO for football is to lead the "Adapt and Overcome" mentality that does not exist in many of our fine leadership organizations.
Let's see what happens.

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This may be the most wheels off post on Texags and I kind of love it

I hope they send her in for one XP once they game is decided and she nails it.

We have rules!!!
Rule 1!

BillgoCU said:

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Three thoughts
1. Are you telling me there isn't a single guy at Vandy that can't outkick her?
2. If she were to get hit I'd be legitimately worried about her.
3. Just putting one woman in a group of guys instantly changes the dynamic, no matter where it is. Focus changes, the way you talk to one another changes, it all changes.

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#3. I would like to think that if she is a good kicker and can help the team win games they could give a crap she is a she!

Vandy 0-7. This is a distraction from that.

I think she will survive.

My only concern is that she is a goalie. We know goalies have tremendous leg strength when they boom uncontested goal kicks. I think I would be looking for forward/striker for a bit more accuracy.

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We have rules!!!
Rule 1!

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Not needed, think beefy.

This is so 2020.

Girls don't belong in men's sports, period.

Where does this go next... baseball, basketball?

Next thing you know, college sports will look like co-ed intramurals.

Rule 1

Came here for the Baylor gif of the kicker getting sent into the universe and I'm disappointed

Yep, after seeing a picture of her, there are many, many male kickers playing today that she could physically beat up.

Anyone worried about her getting hurt doesn't need to worry.

You're welcome.

This is a total publicity grab and good for them. But let's say it is a bad snap and she picks up the ball and gets blown up. Now that guy who hits her has to live with it and deal with the consequences. These guys signed up to play a mans game and they all know the risks going in. She changes the equation.

She's a Texas girl. She'll be fine.

Just saw her on the field with other Vandy players.

She appeared to be about the proportional size as the holder, punter #95.

He's 5-10, 188.