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Video with audio captured it.

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Big discussion on this yesterday.

The REST of the video shows that the older Aggie did NOT say "blackie," but rather "Blaggie." He clearly did not mean any offense.

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The REST of the video shows that the older Aggie did NOT say "blackie," but rather "Blaggie." He clearly did not mean any offense.
Not understanding your offensive nature is different from not meaning offense. Ignorance is not an excuse here.
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He actually said whiitie too so was he racist against himself?
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He actually said whiitie too so was he racist against himself?
Was this ever confirmed?
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This level of delusion and ignorance is astounding.
Windy City Ag
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This thread was attempted and locked over on the politics board so I don't expect it to last long here. Either way though, these old dudes have set back the cause for saving the statue massively. "Blaggies" . . . .unbelievable. It is like a whole generational shift in public attitudes towards sexism and casual racism has escaped certain folks.

Whether you agree with it or not, it is what it is. Saying something like this is just dumb.
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Even if he said it, the whole point being that the simpleton temper-tantrum throwing children do not understand is that what was (supposedly) said is a message of inclusion. He is saying we are all Aggies, not black Aggies, white Aggies, yellow Aggies, etc., etc., etc., etc.

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Windy City Ag said:

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He actually said whiitie too so was he racist against himself?
Was this ever confirmed?


I saw a longer video and he definitely said blackie, Aggie and whiteie while I cringed at him saying it ...it was definitely mis understood by the players he was simply saying we are all Aggies no matter our color. Still burns me up how the players responded...
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Even if he said it, the whole point being that the simpleton temper-tantrum throwing children do not understand is that what was (supposedly) said is a message of inclusion. He is saying we are all Aggie, not black Aggies, white Aggies, yellow Aggies, etc., etc., etc., etc.

The level of immaturity and hypocrisy by Mond and his rabble is just laughable.


Right . . .sure . . . .that is until African American students try to speak their minds on a passionate subject and then they are transformded into low rent thugs/freeloaders/too stupid to get in the school on their own merit/need to be expelled/highway 6 runs both ways/etc.
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This already got locked over on f16. Why is it going here?

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We are all Aggies. We are not Black Aggies or White Aggies.

Better?????

We are all Marines. We aren't Black Marines or White Marines. We are all Green. Some light green and some dark green, but all Marines.



If you spend your entire life looking for something to be offended by you will always find it.
I talk to him when I am lonesome like; and I am sure he understands. When he looks at me so attentively, and gently licks my hands; then he rubs his nose on my tailored clothes, but I never say naught thereat. For the good Lord knows I can buy more clothes, but never a friend like that. ~W. Dayton Wedgefarth
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He said we're Aggies not blackies or whiteys.

Rough tough FB players got feewings hurt over that.
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WINDY - In your best estimate, what do you think he was trying to say?

In times of heightened emotions, have you ever had words or sentences come out wrong?
Have you ever had to say, "That's not what I meant?"
Have you ever had the need for grace extended to you over something you said?
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Windy City Ag said:

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Even if he said it, the whole point being that the simpleton temper-tantrum throwing children do not understand is that what was (supposedly) said is a message of inclusion. He is saying we are all Aggie, not black Aggies, white Aggies, yellow Aggies, etc., etc., etc., etc.

The level of immaturity and hypocrisy by Mond and his rabble is just laughable.


Right . . .sure . . . .that is until African American students try to speak their minds on a passionate subject and then they are transformded into low rent thugs/freeloaders/too stupid to get in the school on their own merit/need to be expelled/highway 6 runs both ways/etc.

That's quite a stretch. They can speak their minds, obviously, but when they are being closed-minded and saying people that disagree with them are ignorant and racist it ceases to be anything but an uninformed temper-tantrum.
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Isn't Jackson Sumlin Kevin Sumin's son?
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Blacky, Whitey, Aggie, Nonreg, Corpsturd, etc....people say stuff. So what?
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(staff inadvertently deleted my post so I am reposting)

[We did not delete your post. - Staff]

Old people say stupid things.

I heard Blaggie's

It was inartful, but understandable considering he was surrounded by angy men who were looking for something to be offended about.

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Windy City Ag said:

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The REST of the video shows that the older Aggie did NOT say "blackie," but rather "Blaggie." He clearly did not mean any offense.
Not understanding your offensive nature is different from not meaning offense. Ignorance is not an excuse here.

You are getting offended over nothing. It's your choice but nothing was offensive.
BeatHellOutOfTU
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gaudiz said:

Isn't Jackson Sumlin Kevin Sumin's son?


Sure is lmfao
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Windy City Ag said:

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He actually said whiitie too so was he racist against himself?
Was this ever confirmed?

Yes. Watch the damn video.
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Windy City Ag said:

This thread was attempted and locked over on the politics board so I don't expect it to last long here. Either way though, these old dudes have set back the cause for saving the statue massively. "Blaggies" . . . .unbelievable. It is like a whole generational shift in public attitudes towards sexism and casual racism has escaped certain folks.

Whether you agree with it or not, it is what it is. Saying something like this is just dumb.
But apparently not with ageism.
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Windy City Ag said:

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Even if he said it, the whole point being that the simpleton temper-tantrum throwing children do not understand is that what was (supposedly) said is a message of inclusion. He is saying we are all Aggie, not black Aggies, white Aggies, yellow Aggies, etc., etc., etc., etc.

The level of immaturity and hypocrisy by Mond and his rabble is just laughable.


Right . . .sure . . . .that is until African American students try to speak their minds on a passionate subject and then they are transformded into low rent thugs/freeloaders/too stupid to get in the school on their own merit/need to be expelled/highway 6 runs both ways/etc.

How do you defend this garbage? You are most definitely part of the problem. Everyone can clearly see that the actions of Tucker and Brown were uncalled for.
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We are all Marines. We aren't Black Marines or White Marines. We are all Green. Some light green and some dark green, but all Marines.



If you spend your entire life looking for something to be offended by you will always find it.

True in theory, but that hasn't resulted in some sort of harmonious state of affairs. Racial tensions in Marines are well documented. There is currently "unconscious bias" training. There have been race riots.

Marine leaders are constantly on record about this, so there is also danger in just swallowing dogma and not verifying if it is at all reflective of reality.
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How do you defend this garbage? You are most definitely part of the problem. Everyone can clearly see that the actions of Tucker and Brown were uncalled for.
Of course they were . . .as are the comments and viewpoints of a lot of Ags.

And you can't even point out "The Problem" . . . .everyone is just venting their political spleen in ridiculous ways and because of that can't see outside their own dug-in worldview.
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Windy City Ag said:

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He actually said whiitie too so was he racist against himself?
Was this ever confirme
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Yeah...pretty much doesn't matter which word he used. He hurt his cause by using either. He should now be sent to a re-education camp in Caracas.
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The problem is people who who don't understand that freedom is better than socialism.

Socialism, meaning government controlled industry and human resources (including the right to draft people into the army) was necessary during WW2, but amounts to dictatorship when used to order social changes to gratify political voting blocks. It has been called "the tyranny of the majority".
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Aeon . . I saw you edited your post. I went back and listened again. Maybe it was on the first recording? We are all dissecting this thing like the Zapruder film. The short one is probably edited as it cuts off at the 16 second mark.I really did not hear it on that one.

The first one is a lot harder to make out but I can't hear it.

It is kind if irrelevant anyway. The man was obviously trying to make a misunderstood point. I agree it was down to poor communication.
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Not in the units I was in. I am still friends with the vast majority of Marines I served with today.

I don't doubt the Marines have problems when I see how 18-24 year old people act today.
I talk to him when I am lonesome like; and I am sure he understands. When he looks at me so attentively, and gently licks my hands; then he rubs his nose on my tailored clothes, but I never say naught thereat. For the good Lord knows I can buy more clothes, but never a friend like that. ~W. Dayton Wedgefarth
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Not in the units I was in. I am still friends with the vast majority of Marines I served with today.

I don't doubt the Marines have problems when I see how 18-24 year old people act today.

Don't doubt it and I really don't doubt that mindset and philosophy of the Marines and to a lesser extent other branches of the Armed Forces breaks down a lot of the pre-conceived notions that lead to racist viewpoints.
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What is a "blaggie"?
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Exactly. The African-American students have a right to express their opinions, but they need to respect opposing view points. By being closed-minded and saying people that disagree with them are ignorant and racist, they are not starting a meaningful dialogue.
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What if both sides are wrong??
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The old man had a poor choice of words. It's obvious he meant no harm, but was trying to make the point that we are all Aggies. The problem here is that people refuse to listen.

The actions of the two players is unacceptable.
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