https://www.newsweek.com/espns-kirk-herbstreit-would-so-surprised-if-college-pro-football-played-this-fall-because-1494907


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2883351-espns-kirk-herbstreit-will-be-shocked-if-nfl-college-football-play-season

But Whitlock troubled by his remarks...

https://247sports.com/Article/Kirk-Herbstreit-college-football-coronavirus-Jason-Whitlock-responds-145479592/

Don't read newsweek.

I think there is a 100% chance that the NFL plays.

The players don't get paid if there is no season. By then the peak will be over, there will be rapid tests widely available that the NFL can use to test all players, staff, and officials. Hopefully there will also be a treatment available that reduces the chance of having a severe case.

I don't think fans will be at NFL games. They might let a small amount of big money fans in.

College is a little different since the players don't get paid. I could see them canceling it.

With all due respect, Herbie might be right but he doesn't really know whether he will be surprised or shocked.

More likely, it will be a no-brainer when the decision made, IMHO.

Say it ain't so!!

Thirsty Third said:

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With all due respect, Herbie might be right but he doesn't really know whether he will be surprised or shocked.

More likely, it will be a no-brainer when the decision made, IMHO.

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Herbie is often not qualified to comment on College Football. His opinions on a virus pandemic are even less noteworthy. He may be right but college football seems like a million years away and beyond even what experts could predict.

It's too early to say if CFB will be cancelled in the fall. I could see it played with empty stadiums and/or on a delayed schedule that starts later in the fall and wraps up in the spring.

Ditto for a delayed NFL schedule. MLB players are already requesting the same thing.

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People in the US were sick with this shot in November, December and January. Far before this whole blowup. I know two of people who were 99% sure had it.

Yet life went on. I hope we can prove that this just isn't a big enough deal to cancel life for. And not just for football. This is going to have major real life ramifications for people. We've got to nut up at some point and face our fears. I hope we get there before college football season, cuz if not, we're headed to a massive depression.

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Double, no x1000 star this post!

I think it's reckless for a guy that has the audience he does to be throwing out wild speculation like that. And it is that. It's not even April yet. There is a lot of research out there that says higher temps and humidity kill this thing off faster. Maybe everyone ought to tap the brakes and give it a couple more months.

But what does Lee Corso think about this...

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

ESPN is too close to NY no way football is not played.
May not have fans in stands but it is not getting cancelled.

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People in the US were sick with this shot in November, December and January. Far before this whole blowup. I know two of people who were 99% sure had it.

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There were some in the later part of January. But while I certainly want to get back to normal, this is highly unlikely, especially the November part.

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But what does Lee Corso think about this...

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No doubt Lee thinks ...."Not so fast my friend"


Jmo, I think they'll have a vaccine worked out much sooner than 12-18 mos as many people as there are working on it. Still probably not soon enough to save 2020 cfb unfortunately .

So there should be a countdown like in the baseball forum.

522 days until September 4 2021...

BTHO Kent state!

If there is a season in 2020...subtract 364 from the above #

Ag4coal said:

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People in the US were sick with this shot in November, December and January. Far before this whole blowup. I know two of people who were 99% sure had it.

Yet life went on. I hope we can prove that this just isn't a big enough deal to cancel life for. And not just for football. This is going to have major real life ramifications for people. We've got to nut up at some point and face our fears. I hope we get there before college football season, cuz if not, we're headed to a massive depression.

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Username checks out?

there's a potentially big financial problem with playing the 2020 season in stadiums with no fans.

and let's use West Virginia as a good example. The Mountaineers have road games in:

Atlanta, GA
Lubbock, TX
Austin, TX
Stillwater, OK
Ames, IA

WVU is going to incur considerable travel costs for those games, and will not have home gate receipts (tickets, parking, concessions) to cover or defray those travel costs. (like the Mountaineers would in a normal season).

then factor in Title IX implications. If the football team is playing a full schedule and traveling & playing in front of empty stadiums. Then the volleyball team gets to play and travel too. Can't put the fall women's sports on the sideline and only play football

and of course A&M is going to have this problem too.

if the football team is playing at (an empty) Kyle in the fall and making roadtrips to Jerryworld, Starkville, Tuscaloosa, etc..,

then the volleyball and soccer teams get to play and travel too

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there's a potentially big financial problem with playing the 2020 season in stadiums with no fans.

and let's use West Virginia as a good example. The Mountaineers have road games in:

Atlanta, GA
Lubbock, TX
Austin, TX
Stillwater, OK
Ames, IA

WVU is going to incur considerable travel costs for those games, and will not have home gate receipts (tickets, parking, concessions) to cover or defray those travel costs. (like the Mountaineers would in a normal season).

then factor in Title IX implications. If the football team is playing a full schedule and traveling & playing in front of empty stadiums. Then the volleyball team gets to play and travel too. Can't put the fall women's sports on the sideline and only play football

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I don't think playing in front of empty stadiums is really a viable option for many other reasons. If it's unsafe for fans it's probably unsafe for players, coaches and everyone else it would take to host the game itself.

There's $1 BILLION+ in TV revenue among the major conferences.

I don't think people understand everything else in sports - ticket sales, brand licensing, etc... is all a drop in the bucket compared to TV broadcast revenues.

IF, and it's a big IF, the NCAA feels that the participants can play safely without fans then the schools will find a way to make it work.

Ag4coal said:

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People in the US were sick with this shot in November, December and January. Far before this whole blowup. I know two of people who were 99% sure had it.

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I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Ag4coal said:

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People in the US were sick with this shot in November, December and January. Far before this whole blowup. I know two of people who were 99% sure had it.

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I have no idea what you are talking about.

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I know personally, first hand, 6 completely unrelated people who starting in mid December had all the symptoms and tested negative for the flu. Multiple tested negative for flu twice, two also tested negative for several other pathogens all negative. You tell me what that is... This has been among us for months. There are thousands by the score of recovered uncounted cases.

Proposition Joe said:

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There's $1 BILLION+ in TV revenue among the major conferences.

I don't think people understand everything else in sports - ticket sales, brand licensing, etc... is all a drop in the bucket compared to TV broadcast revenues.

IF, and it's a big IF, the NCAA feels that the participants can play safely without fans then the schools will find a way to make it work.

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This literally makes no sense. It's either safe to host the game or not. How many people do you think are required to host a big-time college football event? How on earth could you tell people you are going to go for it because there is too much money on the line but it's far too dangerous for fans to show up.

Ag4coal said:

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People in the US were sick with this shot in November, December and January. Far before this whole blowup. I know two of people who were 99% sure had it.

Yet life went on. I hope we can prove that this just isn't a big enough deal to cancel life for. And not just for football. This is going to have major real life ramifications for people. We've got to nut up at some point and face our fears. I hope we get there before college football season, cuz if not, we're headed to a massive depression.

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I mean this in the most respectful way possible but if your biggest fear is missing college football you should "nut-up" and go volunteer at an ICU in NYC. I have a feeling you would be singing a different song after 1 minute on the job.

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Proposition Joe said:

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There's $1 BILLION+ in TV revenue among the major conferences.

I don't think people understand everything else in sports - ticket sales, brand licensing, etc... is all a drop in the bucket compared to TV broadcast revenues.

IF, and it's a big IF, the NCAA feels that the participants can play safely without fans then the schools will find a way to make it work.

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This literally makes no sense. It's either safe to host the game or not. How many people do you think are required to host a big-time college football event? How on earth could you tell people you are going to go for it because there is too much money on the line but it's far too dangerous for fans to show up.

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Which is why I said IF the NCAA feels the participants can play safely.

College basketball was initially set to go fan-less. NBA is talking about going fan-less when they return.

We're not talking about trying to pull it off this weekend, the idea would be 5 months from being able to safely and quickly test a group of people and put them in a closed environment where the event can take place.

You may be able to make the case at that point fans can attend, but maybe you still aren't likely the liability of 100,000 people who you don't know if they've been tested packing in a stadium shoulder to shoulder.

Again, I'm not saying it's likely to happen - I personally don't find it likely the season gets played at all - but IF by then they feel it can safely be done without the fans in attendance they aren't going to refrain from doing it because "it's all about the fans" or "it wouldn't be the same". That TV contract pays a lot of bills (including most head high profile head coaches).

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But what does Lee Corso think about this...

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He thinks he would go on Herbstreit's show because he's trying to help him. But he thinks Kirk is a big jerk and he's not kidding. (DFW Ticket reference)

Way way too early to speculate. That said, hard to understand why so many think season will be canceled...seems more likely season would be played.

Optics, politics, and lawyers will decide the fate of the season. NCAA is powerless.

Sparkie said:

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Optics, politics, and lawyers will decide the fate of the season. NCAA is powerless.

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Agreed.