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vander54 said:

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vander54 said:

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vander54 said:

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Not to be a negative nelly but uh...I couldn't tell you who the OC is for LSU, 72 points. Jimbo put up 74 on Aranda, we should be poaching Aranda and not worry to much about whether Elko is staying.

But next year maybe different?



Uh........


Guess I've got to spell it out.......I trust Jimbo as OC to hang 74 on any DC with the offense actually executing. A no name OC hanging 72 on a Elko defense with as much talent on the defensive front that we had last year says something.


I know what you were saying, that doesn't mean it makes any sense. 7 OT, 31-31 at the end of 4 quarters. LSU had the 37th best scoring offense. They were a very good offensive team


Spavital could of coached LSU to a 37th ranked offense at LSU. Elko should of schemed against the talent of LSU and not simply an Elko scheme. Clemson did it to bama, and Bama shut LSU out.


So we are Bama and Clemson level already. No wonder you are disappointed. In the 2 previous years we gave up 45 and 54 in regulation. We held them to 31 points in regulation and that is with gifting them a 58 yard fumble returned for a TD.


LSU lost to 3 teams.

Florida
Bama
A&M

What did Aranda do different against Mississippi st and Auburn?

Just saying, let's not puff Elko so much, happened with Chavis and he had way more talent.



Their offense didn't **** the bed.
um pretty sure A&M had the lead against Auburn most of the game, State had a decent defense but the their QB threw for 200+ after not throwing all year.


Mond threw the Auburn game away and Miss State has the best, most upperclassmen-heavy defense in the league last year. In 13 games their defense allowed 15 TDs. It was not just a "decent defense".

They lost 12 players in their defensive 2-deep to graduation/draft.
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vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

Not to be a negative nelly but uh...I couldn't tell you who the OC is for LSU, 72 points. Jimbo put up 74 on Aranda, we should be poaching Aranda and not worry to much about whether Elko is staying.

But next year maybe different?



Uh........


Guess I've got to spell it out.......I trust Jimbo as OC to hang 74 on any DC with the offense actually executing. A no name OC hanging 72 on a Elko defense with as much talent on the defensive front that we had last year says something.


I know what you were saying, that doesn't mean it makes any sense. 7 OT, 31-31 at the end of 4 quarters. LSU had the 37th best scoring offense. They were a very good offensive team


Spavital could of coached LSU to a 37th ranked offense at LSU. Elko should of schemed against the talent of LSU and not simply an Elko scheme. Clemson did it to bama, and Bama shut LSU out.


So we are Bama and Clemson level already. No wonder you are disappointed. In the 2 previous years we gave up 45 and 54 in regulation. We held them to 31 points in regulation and that is with gifting them a 58 yard fumble returned for a TD.


LSU lost to 3 teams.

Florida
Bama
A&M

What did Aranda do different against Mississippi st and Auburn?

Just saying, let's not puff Elko so much, happened with Chavis and he had way more talent.



Their offense didn't **** the bed.
um pretty sure A&M had the lead against Auburn most of the game, State had a decent defense but the their QB threw for 200+ after not throwing all year.


We had the lead against both and in the fourth quarter our offense disappeared. Mond made some idiotic mistakes and we lost the games. We held both to 28 pints and MSU scored on a big play at the end of the game.

I don't even know why I am arguing with you. You clearly either did not watch us play or your football IQ is too low to comprehend.
quit with the insulting dude, you're taking your opinion on who lost the game and portraying it as fact.

You said it yourself, msu won a big play, defense's job is to eliminate big plays, Auburn won in the last 5 minutes of 4th quarter again on the defense. Jimbo's offense's control the clock so it's not like the defense is gassed amigo. Look I find it awesome that he's coming back next year but next year will be a defensive proving year for sure.

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But, but, the Bengals DC job was an upgrayedd for Elko over being the A&M DC.

/texags
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Hold on you are complaining about Elko giving up 72 points in 7 overtimes, but you want us to poach Aranda who gave up 74 points in the same game? That makes sense how?

Overall defensively LSU was #25(34 RD,38 PD) and the Aggies are #32 (2 RD, 107 PD) fairly close and I think it is safe to say that in comparative talents LSU has the defensive edge (2 player projected to be top 10 picks) Elko did about the same with a lot less talent.

However here is a really telling stat between the two, 3rd down conversion allowed Aggies were #9 in the Nation in this category only allowing 49 first downs on third out of 162 chances and .302 conversion rate LSU was #34 in this category allowing 70 first downs out of 198 chances for a .354 conversion rate, Elko got us off the field on third down that is the biggest thing he did for us. In addition Red Zone Defense we were #15 in the nation, when opponents got to our Red zone they scored 75% of the time, 28 scores (25 TD, 3 FG) out of 37 opportunities, LSU was #83 in this category allowing 34 scores (23 TD, 11 FG) for a .850 scoring percentage. While we gave up more Touchdowns it is still an impressive feat to have 9 RZ possessions stopped. Overall to dump him for Aranda would be a lateral move at this point Elko got this squad to play.

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AggFan41 said:

Not to be a negative nelly but uh...I couldn't tell you who the OC is for LSU, 72 points. Jimbo put up 74 on Aranda, we should be poaching Aranda and not worry to much about whether Elko is staying.



But next year maybe different?



Why do people keep parroting this? The game was 7 overtimes. What do you expect?
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AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

Not to be a negative nelly but uh...I couldn't tell you who the OC is for LSU, 72 points. Jimbo put up 74 on Aranda, we should be poaching Aranda and not worry to much about whether Elko is staying.

But next year maybe different?



Uh........


Guess I've got to spell it out.......I trust Jimbo as OC to hang 74 on any DC with the offense actually executing. A no name OC hanging 72 on a Elko defense with as much talent on the defensive front that we had last year says something.


I know what you were saying, that doesn't mean it makes any sense. 7 OT, 31-31 at the end of 4 quarters. LSU had the 37th best scoring offense. They were a very good offensive team


Spavital could of coached LSU to a 37th ranked offense at LSU. Elko should of schemed against the talent of LSU and not simply an Elko scheme. Clemson did it to bama, and Bama shut LSU out.

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In the first overtime we held LSU to a field goal and then our offense was first and goal at the LSU one yard line. If we punch it in there and win 38-34 is there anyone complaining about the job Elko did?
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HoustonAg2106 said:

SportAggie said:

AggFan41 said:

vander54 said:

AggFan41 said:

Not to be a negative nelly but uh...I couldn't tell you who the OC is for LSU, 72 points. Jimbo put up 74 on Aranda, we should be poaching Aranda and not worry to much about whether Elko is staying.

But next year maybe different?



Uh........


Guess I've got to spell it out.......I trust Jimbo as OC to hang 74 on any DC with the offense actually executing. A no name OC hanging 72 on a Elko defense with as much talent on the defensive front that we had last year says something.


Does it say: "Offenses are given a massive advatage in CFB overtimes?"


Well since they start every drive on the 25 yard line, yes

Case in point, we pushed them back about 8 yards in one of the OTs and they still scored on a 50 yard FG.

So yeah, those points are all on Elko. /smh
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this thread has a chance to be one of those off season threads that helps to carry us through. keep the hot takes coming!
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Elko was in year 1 with almost none of his recruits.

But I guess that doesn't matter either.
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He's only staying another year or two

Jimbo already has his replacements in mind
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This thread has not gone how AggFan41 wanted.
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Meximan said:

This thread has not gone how AggFan41 wanted.


Meh...living it up in the casino atm, life is breaking even, free beer, rhoulette and talking ish to the zoo. Offseason is great
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AggFan41 said:

Meximan said:

This thread has not gone how AggFan41 wanted.


Meh...living it up in the casino atm, life is breaking even, free beer, rhoulette and talking ish to the zoo. Offseason is great
we need a hot take right about now
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Anyone saying Elko didn't basically work a miracle in year one has a REALLY bad memory.
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ironmanag said:

Elko was in year 1 with almost none of his recruits.

But I guess that doesn't matter either.


Elko has done really well everywhere he has been. If he has elite athletes he will be great. I am looking forward to the next couple of years. He will be gone at some point. But it will be fun to watch!
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Lateralus Ag said:

ironmanag said:

Elko was in year 1 with almost none of his recruits.

But I guess that doesn't matter either.


Elko has done really well everywhere he has been. If he has elite athletes he will be great. I am looking forward to the next couple of years. He will be gone at some point. But it will be fun to watch!
I liked Chavis, and think the improvement in the LBs and DL started under him. But Elko got a huge improvement in results with essentially the same players, though it helped having a HC who ran tough practices, understood ball control, and prioritized defensive recruits as much as offense.

The huge jump in run defense this year was beyond my wildest expectations. And I think what was said about Elko before he came (that he would match his defense to his players and not necessarily the other way around) was borne out on the field.
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listened to this guy a few weeks back. He is gonna take us in the right direction
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Quote:

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2019/03/26/sources-after-astrong-first-season-texas-am-gives-defensive-coordinator-mike-elko-salary-bump

Texas A&M rewarded defensive coordinator Mike Elko after his first season in College Station.

Elko received a raise this offseason and is set to make $2.1 million in 2019, according to sources familiar with the deal.

Terms of the deal were not immediately available Tuesday afternoon.
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. . . said:

Quote:

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2019/03/26/sources-after-astrong-first-season-texas-am-gives-defensive-coordinator-mike-elko-salary-bump

Texas A&M rewarded defensive coordinator Mike Elko after his first season in College Station.

Elko received a raise this offseason and is set to make $2.1 million in 2019, according to sources familiar with the deal.

Terms of the deal were not immediately available Tuesday afternoon.

Good. Keep other schools from poaching him with their meager offerings. We're rich AF.
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Run Defense was the best I've seen of an Aggie team since the RC era. If we can tighten down on the pass Defense next year we'll see a few games like the bowl and maybe even beat a couple of the "big 4".
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Well deserved raise Elko, now hopefully he sticks around for at least a few more seasons.
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hunter2012 said:

Run Defense was the best I've seen of an Aggie team since the RC era. If we can tighten down on the pass Defense next year we'll see a few games like the bowl and maybe even beat a couple of the "big 4".


The YPG numbers were better in 2018 than the 1999 numbers. But our passing efficiency defense/passing yards allowed ranking was much better in 1999 which suggests you couldn't game plan against us just via more passing like teams mostly did in the fall.
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