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Heisman Strength of Schedule

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speedy
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Just looked at the SOS for the Heiseman candidates:
Alabama 13-0 SOS = 2
Ohio State 12-1 SOS = 11
Oklahoma 12-1 SOS = 16

There were 10 SEC schools ranked ahead of ou.

So who wins...duh!
Lateralus Ag
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Kyler won. Get over it.
JPK89
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Lateralus Ag said:

Kyler won. Get over it.


Stfu.
titanmaster_race
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Did ou play a legitimate defense at all this season?

*Not being sarcastic, I really don't know*
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speedy said:

Just looked at the SOS for the Heiseman candidates:
Alabama 13-0 SOS = 2
Ohio State 12-1 SOS = 11
Oklahoma 12-1 SOS = 16

There were 10 SEC schools ranked ahead of ou.

So who wins...duh!


WGAF ITS OVER
TxAg82
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16 is not exactly a bad SOS. But,sure, it isn't #2. I don't think that disqualifies Kyler.
Lateralus Ag
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JPK89 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Kyler won. Get over it.


Stfu.


Wow. You guys need some Midol tonight.
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Aggie_Journalist
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Kyler deserved it. Tua was worse than a non-factor in Alabama's Biggest game of the year, his performance is why they needed a second-half comeback. Kyler is the reason why OU is 12-1 and in the playoffs. Without him, sooners might not even have 10 wins. I bet they take a big step back without him.
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Aggie_Journalist said:

Kyler deserved it. Tua was worse than a non-factor in Alabama's Biggest game of the year, his performance is why they needed a second-half comeback. Kyler is the reason why OU is 12-1 and in the playoffs. Without him, sooners might not even have 10 wins. I bet they take a big step back without him.


I would bet ou goes for 1 loss again next year. THEY PLAY NO ONE!!!
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speedy said:

Just looked at the SOS for the Heiseman candidates:
Alabama 13-0 SOS = 2
Ohio State 12-1 SOS = 11
Oklahoma 12-1 SOS = 16

There were 10 SEC schools ranked ahead of ou.

So who wins...duh!
16 is pretty high
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That's actually a good SoS. I do think that Tua is the better QB but Kyler sealed this in the BDF CCG. Let it go, he's a great college player.
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ESiPN article states 85% of ballots came in after the SEC Championship. I was pulling for Tua, but with the late votes it went to Murray.
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TxAg82 said:

16 is not exactly a bad SOS. But,sure, it isn't #2. I don't think that disqualifies Kyler.

Yeah but fraudulent tu artificially raised it.
Emilio Fantastico
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Where do d you get those SOS numbers?

How in the world is OUs 16?

Their OOC was a joke and the BDF is a joke.

Also surprised to see Bama at 2 since their OOC was also a joke.
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Aggie_Journalist said:

Kyler deserved it. Tua was worse than a non-factor in Alabama's Biggest game of the year, his performance is why they needed a second-half comeback. Kyler is the reason why OU is 12-1 and in the playoffs. Without him, sooners might not even have 10 wins. I bet they take a big step back without him.


Tua was injured. And I could make the case that Kyler might have needed a 2nd half comeback against Georgia.

And for the record, Kyler needed a 2nd half comeback against the mighty sips.
Buck O Five
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If Alabama has OU's defense, Tua would have to play the entire second half thus boosting his stats dramatically.
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Well... we're about to get to see them head to head, so you can validate your feelings one way or another.
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I think it is queer that people are obsessing over the Heisman award.
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titanmaster_race said:

Did ou play a legitimate defense at all this season?

*Not being sarcastic, I really don't know*


Army
OldShadeOfBlue
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SOSs
BAMA #2
LSU #3
A&M #4

How on Earth does Bama's schedule rank higher than ours? They're the only team in the West who doesn't have to play Bama. That's an advantage every season!
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OldShadeOfBlue said:

SOSs
BAMA #2
LSU #3
A&M #4

How on Earth does Bama's schedule rank higher than ours? They're the only team in the West who doesn't have to play Bama. That's an advantage every season!
I'm confused too, Mizzou isn't better than Kentucky, Tennessee is worse the USCe. And Citadel/ArkState/ULaLa/Louisville are not better than Northwestern/Clemson/UAB/ULM
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Not that Bama needs more motivation here, but simply put the message to the team is simple:

On D, go out and dominate and make Kyler's life miserable. Force turnovers and make it a miserable outing for the Heisman Winner.

On O, execute and score lots of points with many TD Passes.

By the end of the game, everyone that voted for Kyler should feel like a complete arse!

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Yeah where did you get those SoS numbers?

Sagarin has https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

Bama 44
tOSU 40
OU 31


A&M 4

( the three above us were Pitt, Tennessee, and UCLA)
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https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other

1 Georgia (11-2) 12.8 1 72 3
2 Alabama (13-0) 12.3 1 37 5
3 LSU (9-3) 10.6 1 28 1
4 Texas A&M (8-4) 10.1 1 114 2
5 Miss State (8-4) 9.9 3 80 4
6 Missouri (8-4) 9.5 3 108 6
7 Michigan (10-2) 9.4 3 18 7
8 Auburn (7-5) 9.1 4 26 8
9 S Carolina (7-5) 7.7 4 92 9
10 Florida (9-3) 7.5 6 91 11
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Lateralus Ag said:

JPK89 said:

Lateralus Ag said:

Kyler won. Get over it.


Stfu.


Wow. You guys need some Midol tonight.
Yeah, or you could stop with the passive/aggression...
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If I didn't know any better, all this teeth gnashing about Kyler winning the Heisman over Tua makes me think that Tua went to A&M and that's why some of you are pissed off.

Tua can go to hell. Saban can go to hell. And Bama can go back to the Mike Shula years.
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Quote:

Did ou play a legitimate defense at all this season?

Depends on how poster interprets "legitimate."

I don't love this stat b/c it fails to account for starting field position and # of possession, but Iowa State (36) and tcu (44) were the only 2 BDF programs in the top 50 in scoring defense. (as of posting time)

MSU (1)
Bama (4)
UK (8)
UGA (16)
Aub (18)
UF (21)
LSU (22)
Mizzou (44)
Vandy (49)


So no, the BDF does not play much defense. Kyler would not have put up the stats he did against the SEC. ou would have gone 8-4 playing Bama's schedule and Kyler would not have even gone to NY for the party.



https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28
Emilio Fantastico
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LSU would've been right at 10th and we would've been at 38th if you take out the 40+ points scored in the 7 OTs.

That game seriously wrecked this stat.
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Aggie_Journalist said:

Kyler deserved it. Tua was worse than a non-factor in Alabama's Biggest game of the year, his performance is why they needed a second-half comeback. Kyler is the reason why OU is 12-1 and in the playoffs. Without him, sooners might not even have 10 wins. I bet they take a big step back without him.
i am not saying Kyler does not deserve it. But not a good example to prove it. I mean Tua played Georgia in the last game and Kyler played Texas. Big big difference. Tua would have put up huge numbers in the Big 12. Not so sure Kyler would have in the SEC.
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Emilio Fantastico said:

LSU would've been right at 10th and we would've been at 38th if you take out the 40+ points scored in the 7 OTs.

That game seriously wrecked this stat.
well, the game couldnt end in a tie, so why would you try to qualify the information
Emilio Fantastico
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Because the format of the OT falsely biases scoring. It not like you actually have to move the ball to score in OT. LSU lost yardage in one of those and still scored.

Plus, I was surprised to not see us in the Top 50 because we were all year before that game.
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titanmaster_race said:

Did ou play a legitimate defense at all this season?

*Not being sarcastic, I really don't know*


ISU and TCU have pretty good defenses. Army as well. Texas' defense isn't awful. And they had the misfortune of playing the #1 offense twice.

Tech and UCLA are the only truly abysmal defenses they faced.
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Ag4coal said:

Aggie_Journalist said:

Kyler deserved it. Tua was worse than a non-factor in Alabama's Biggest game of the year, his performance is why they needed a second-half comeback. Kyler is the reason why OU is 12-1 and in the playoffs. Without him, sooners might not even have 10 wins. I bet they take a big step back without him.


I would bet ou goes for 1 loss again next year. THEY PLAY NO ONE!!!


Clearly they play someone or their strength of schedule wouldn't be 16.
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The top defense they played was TCU at 26

No other team on their schedule was in the top 50.

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