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EKG1996
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Facebook Friend seems like he or she has a lot of pent up anger at the Aggies.

Maybe Herman can win him some games in the Big 12 to make him/her feel better.

Aggies crying for unequal revenues is what killed the Big 12 and not joining the LHN killed the Big 12?! LOL.


aggiehawg
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Where did our little "Friend" disappear to?
BigDog12
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why would I have anger I am the one that understands what happened

no one is really angry that A&M left the Big 12, but that does not change the reality of what happened

A&M is the one that will not accept that reality and needs to continue to blame UT in spite of all reality

CU wanted in the PAC 10 before the Big 12 existed that is a fact once that was available to them they were gone no matter what

MU wanted in the Big 10 for years and years and was openly trying to get in (which is part of why they were not invited) that is a simple fact

A&M was 100% in favor of unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 and for several years A&M was a major beneficiary of that

A&M was offered and accepted to take unequal shares of the money left by NU and CU while OU and Texas declined to do so

A&M stated they were going to be in the Big 12 as a long term home and then left anyway

and A&M threatened to sue the Big 12 for $20 million per year in conference distributions they claimed they were promised if they stayed

yet A&M fans blame unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 as a reason to leave and they blame the LHN and Texas for that

and they blame the greed of Texas and the LHN for NU leaving

NU was never in favor of equal revenue sharing neither was A&M

NU wanted unequal revenue sharing if there was a conference network and without that they were against a conference network

it took at least 4 schools to be against a conference network and Texas had a single vote.....so who were the fools that Texas "forced" to vote no?.....why were those programs so weak to be forced to do so

or more realistically why do the fans of those programs refuse to accept the decisions of their administration

because the reality is right there in that article for all to see as well as other articles quoting A&M officials about long term decisions and lawsuits

yet for some reason Texas should accept blame for something the were not responsible for and that it can be proven they were not responsible for

why would knowing this and understanding it and accepting it make me angry I am not the one that refuses to accept the truth as documented in major news papers directly quoting people that made the decisions
Schrute
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FacebookFriend said:

why would I have anger I am the one that understands what happened

no one is really angry that A&M left the Big 12, but that does not change the reality of what happened

A&M is the one that will not accept that reality and needs to continue to blame UT in spite of all reality

CU wanted in the PAC 10 before the Big 12 existed that is a fact once that was available to them they were gone no matter what

MU wanted in the Big 10 for years and years and was openly trying to get in (which is part of why they were not invited) that is a simple fact

A&M was 100% in favor of unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 and for several years A&M was a major beneficiary of that

A&M was offered and accepted to take unequal shares of the money left by NU and CU while OU and Texas declined to do so

A&M stated they were going to be in the Big 12 as a long term home and then left anyway

and A&M threatened to sue the Big 12 for $20 million per year in conference distributions they claimed they were promised if they stayed

yet A&M fans blame unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 as a reason to leave and they blame the LHN and Texas for that

and they blame the greed of Texas and the LHN for NU leaving

NU was never in favor of equal revenue sharing neither was A&M

NU wanted unequal revenue sharing if there was a conference network and without that they were against a conference network

it took at least 4 schools to be against a conference network and Texas had a single vote.....so who were the fools that Texas "forced" to vote no?.....why were those programs so weak to be forced to do so

or more realistically why do the fans of those programs refuse to accept the decisions of their administration

because the reality is right there in that article for all to see as well as other articles quoting A&M officials about long term decisions and lawsuits

yet for some reason Texas should accept blame for something the were not responsible for and that it can be proven they were not responsible for

why would knowing this and understanding it and accepting it make me angry I am not the one that refuses to accept the truth as documented in major news papers directly quoting people that made the decisions
03_Aggie
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It appears as though the Texas/Nebraska "commitment" was only made for the scenario where all teams stayed. Neither made a commitment to stay in the scenario involving one or more other teams leaving. It's right there in you quote:

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The next day, Friday, June 4, the call for commitment turned to how to define it. As part of that, Perlman attempted to probe the depth of Texas' commitment to the Big 12.

What if Nebraska stayed but both Colorado and Missouri left? Would Texas stay then, Perlman asked? Perlman said Powers indicated he was optimistic Texas would, but he could not commit.
aggiehawg
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Let me dust off my realignment chops and get to work here:

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A&M was 100% in favor of unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 and for several years A&M was a major beneficiary of that True. Disparate revenue was dependent on the number of TV appearances. Sips, Huskers, Sooner and Ags had larger fan bases and thus were on TV more often.

A&M was offered and accepted to take unequal shares of the money left by NU and CU while OU and Texas declined to do so. Misleading. In June 2010, when all of this went down, A&M had three proposals on the table: PAC offer, SEC offer and then the Beebe Bucks white paper. Both the PAC and SEC offers were in the 20+ million range, more than the 16-17 million A&M was then receiving. Beebe got the "Forgotten Five" to chip in their shares of the exit money from Nebraska and Colorado for one or two years until the next TV contract was renewed. That was done to not only keep A&M, but OU and tu from going to the PAC for the higher offer. The number for A&M was 20 million per year minimum from the Big XII distributions, guaranteed. How the Big XII got there was irrelevant. (A&M never wanted to go to the PAC. We had long considered going to the SEC and might have when the SWC broke up if Bullock hadn't used his power of the purse to keep A&M from leaving.) Why did tu stay and not go to the PAC is the real question, here. Was it because of the PAC conference network meant the horns couldn't have their own? Or are you claiming the PAC didn't want tu unless A&M came with them?





A&M stated they were going to be in the Big 12 as a long term home and then left anyway. After the new TV contract was negotiated by Beebe and after Beebe and Dodds lied about what was in the LHN contract. You do remember that both the other Big XII members and the NCAA objected to certain terms in the LHN contract? In fact the NCAA forbade the LHN from airing HS content because of the blatant recruiting violations that would cause. Something that Dodds himself was on camera boasting about, how the LHN would be used as a recruiting tool for HS athletes in every sport.

and A&M threatened to sue the Big 12 for $20 million per year in conference distributions they claimed they were promised if they stayed. That was the deal in 2010. Twenty million.

yet A&M fans blame unequal revenue sharing in the Big 12 as a reason to leave and they blame the LHN and Texas for that . The Big XII was a shotgun marriage from the get-go. It was never a cohesive conference and was very dysfunctional, same as the SWC was. The voting block of the State of Texas schools controlled was resented by other power schools, notably Nebraska and on occasion, the Sooners.

and they blame the greed of Texas and the LHN for NU leaving. Nebraska took a paycut to leave the Big XII in the first years. Their reasons for leaving were not as important as the lack of reasons to stay. There were none.
aggiehawg
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Annnnddd, my work here is done.
Agsuffering@bulaw
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Seriously, you should have read your own stuff more carefully:

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What if Nebraska stayed but both Colorado and Missouri left? Would Texas stay then, Perlman asked? Perlman said Powers indicated he was optimistic Texas would, but he could not commit.

[sic:grant of rights]...He said Powers responded that he might be able to secure that commitment but it would take time, and the schools didn't have much time.

Perlman said the responses to those questions did little to allay his concerns that Nebraska could end up committing to a league with a short shelf life.

However, it appears even if Texas had answered those questions with solid commitments, there's no guarantee Nebraska would have pledged to stay...

Commentary- there is very little guarantee of much in life. Again, if tu had not been negotiating to go to the PAC, Nebraska would not have forced the issue. Nebraska asked for a grant of rights and tu said "maybe later."

They did not feel like their conference was stable. So they did what they had to do. And, they were probably right. The conference was not stable and was never going to be.
Agsuffering@bulaw
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Anyways, its been so much fun watching you people lose and languish in a dumpster fire of a conference!
aggiehawg
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[sic:grant of rights]...He said Powers responded that he might be able to secure that commitment but it would take time, and the schools didn't have much time.
GOR means conference network and the death of Dodds' Dream (and folly), a university specific network.

The history here is easy. Kevin Weiberg was the Big XII Commish. He advocated for a conference network but neither Nebraska nor tu really wanted it at the time. Weiberg quits, goes to the B1G, and finishes the final contract for the B1G network with Fox.

A few years later and Weiberg is the right hand man to newbie Commish Scott in the PAC (who has a tennis background). Weiberg pitches the PAC expansion with the Central Time Zone teams in the Big XII and a PAC conference network. Weiberg is the former Big XII Commish and knows the players well. But not well enough, apparently.

I still comeback to June 2010. Scott is staying at a friend's home after pitching the PAC to Dodds, Powers, Plonsky and what the burnt orange media called "the number crunchers." Scott is very confident the deal is done and they pour some nice scotch (or other libation) and light stogies to celebrate the done deal. When Powers calls the next morning (a Monday, June 14th) around 10 AM, Scott is floored as he never thought there was a single doubt.
Lateralus Ag
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Ms. Hawg is owning sippy. I love it when she goes full Hawg on a sip.

aggiehawg
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Lateralus Ag said:

Ms. Hawg is owning sippy. I love it when she goes full Hawg on a sip.


Shooting fish in a barrel. Little skill required.
Hehateme1
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FacebookFriend said:

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no one is really angry that A&M left the Big 12........................


Especially not Aggies.


How 'bout you just f... off ??


You know... don't go away mad.. just go away..... really dude.. f... off


corybantic
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Hawg has it right, this is ole Randolph.

aggiehawg
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corybantic said:

Hawg has it right, this is ole Randolph.


Ooh!


Bottlehead90
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How many conferences has tu destroyed?

Everyone they have been in.
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