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Def tuning into this.

Just please don't blame me for your wasted viewing time if it turns out to be another Pearl Harbor ...

Anyone watch this?

I thought it was OK. I didn't buy for one second the wildly nervous German soldier who didn't even know how to hold a rifle--in 1945, maybe, but not in 1939.

I'll keep watching for now.

Yeah that was pretty bad.

I understand from my wife that if you subscribe to PBS they have the whole thing now for viewing in one sitting. Since it is six episode only, I assume they are planning on multiple seasons because they are going to have to really rush it to get to the end of the war.

There does seem to be a lot of cliches in the making for this series so far. The no-nonsense tough journalist woman, the reluctant German soldier and the gay love affair. Sort of predictable so far but I'm in for episode 2 unless my wife tells me it's a no go after binge watching.

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There does seem to be a lot of cliches in the making for this series so far.

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Completely agree.

I just finished watching the German series "Generation War" (Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vater), and the German series is far superior in acting and production values, so the PBS show suffers by that comparison. I would probably have enjoyed the PBS show more had I not just finished the other one.

I was hoping this would be on the level of The Winds or War/War and Remembrance.

Doesn't look that way ...

I have a membership to my local PBS station and can stream the entire season. It's a great program, even if little more than drama.

Does it paint a picture of what it meant to live then? I can't really say, but it was fascinating.

BQ78 - My wife and I binge watched the remainder of the series last night (we have PBS Passport), and your criticism are all valid. Still, I've found it an interesting and entertaining WWII fiction piece.

And yes, that was a Thompson the Senegalese soldier was carrying. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, the U.S. did provide a massive about of arms to the British under the Lend-Lease Act, but I'm not sure that went into effect as early as 1940. I really think it may have been passed in early 1941, but I'd have to check.

Besides Lois performing while being pregnant and unwed, the outfits she was wearing would have been considered scandalous during the 30's and 40's. Pregnant women didn't wear form fitting clothing back then.

I also found a number of situations in which the British soldiers were slow to react when someone started shooting at them. I know from experience that isn't healthy.

Adendum: I checked and the Lend-Lease Act was passed in March 1941. Prior to that, there were several Neutrality Acts passed in the 30's that generally prohibited the sale of arms to other countries. That does make the Thompson a bit problematic

BrazonBendHorn - That's OK. If I remember correctly, in the movie The Commancheros, John Wayne landed in Galveston and the next day was somewhere in the Big Bend country, at least based on the terrain.

Although come to think of it, it's no more geographically impossible than Capt. Hilts stealing a German motorcycle in western Poland or eastern Germany and riding it all the way across Germany to the Swiss border ...

Had high hopes but bailed pretty quick. Just not that good. Now I'm either going back to rewatch band of brothers (Haven't seen it since in a long time and would appreciate it much more at this point in my life) or start Chernobyl, which I haven't seen.

Jimmy McNulty said:

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Had high hopes but bailed pretty quick. Just not that good. Now I'm either going back to rewatch band of brothers (Haven't seen it since in a long time and would appreciate it much more at this point in my life) or start Chernobyl, which I haven't seen.

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Chernobyl.. highly recommend this one.

Trench:

The problem with that is the Senegalese were part of the French army and I don't believe the US ever provided them anything before the war. Lend Lease was almost a year away at the time of Dunkirk.

Which points out some of the SJW aspects of the story, the British were denying all French soldiers passage until they evacuated all the British but the story had to make it seem like they tried to stop them because they were African.

BQ78:

Maybe he picked it up in French Indochina before the Japanese invaded.

Probably picked it up in the black market in Marseilles ...

I'm glad someone picked up the thread.

I'm still watching it. I agree that it's not very good, but I keep tuning in.

The British pilot who is attracted to the pregnant singer is the first actor in the whole series who acts and sounds as if he was from the '40s.

The show is overall disappointing and, as others have said, is trying too hard to be a SJW version of WWII.

On tonight's episode: "Webster and Albert's life in the city they love will never be the same."

Oh bloody hell ... at this point I'm tuning in mostly out of curiosity about the fate of Polish freedom fighter Kasia Tomaszeski ...

Indeed and all we saw of her last night was crying herself asleep pining for her socialist two timing husband.

My biggest problem with this show is I really don't care about any of the characters, they are all flawed for the most part. I guess Masterpiece thought that would make them all more human but it ain't working, they seem more cartoonish to me.

But now we have a really interesting character the gay Nazi. Authoritarian by day but sensitive guy by night who really love humanity and good jazz.

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My biggest problem with this show is I really don't care about any of the characters

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I can't even remember their names. There's the Sean Bean character, the Helen Hunt character, uhm, whatever.

And then last night the British sailor trapped in Paris (son of the Sean Bean character, brother of the pregnant Cockney character) gets out of Paris and into Spain, just like that, walking through some woods that look very much like the woods in Poland that we saw in an earlier episode ... and come on, you've got to traverse 3/4 of France to get from Paris to the Pyrenees, getting out of Nazi-occupied France and through Vichy France, and then you've got to get at least halfway through the Pyrenees (which aren't the Alps or the Rockies but it's still a very rugged area) to get to Spain ...

Yeah they just happened to go through the nice flat forested area of the Pyrennes, which the Nazi and French authorities left completely unguarded.

Hey, James Coburn made the same journey in The Great Escape! Seems plausible!

Sure, it's plausible, and I'm aware that a number of Allied servicemen escaped occupied Europe by way of Spain. It's just that the process was a little more difficult than how it was portrayed in WOF (from one or two accounts that I've read).

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Indeed and all we saw of her last night was crying herself asleep pining for her socialist two timing husband.

My biggest problem with this show is I really don't care about any of the characters, they are all flawed for the most part. I guess Masterpiece thought that would make them all more human but it ain't working, they seem more cartoonish to me.

But now we have a really interesting character the gay Nazi. Authoritarian by day but sensitive guy by night who really love humanity and good jazz.

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Yep. It's a soap opera as much as anything.

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Yep. It's a soap opera as much as anything.

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Same could be said for Gone With The Wind